Andy Blyth Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) Hi Guys I'm about to go any place an order for a full set of UK brakes. Unfortunately I can't find any information regarding what you get when you order a set of calipers. (Not being able to search for "UK brake" doesn't help!) I have put together a small shopping list of what I think I need to buy. Could some kind soul with the experience tell me if I've duplicated anything? E.g. if the calipers already come with the retaining pins etc. Front 1X 47730-14260 CYLINDER ASSY, FRONT DISC BRAKE, RH 1X 47750-14270 CYLINDER ASSY, DISC BRAKE, LH 1X 43512-14200 DISC, FRONT 1X 43516-14030 DISC, FRONT 4X 90240-06019 PIN, W/HOLE (FOR FRONT DISC BRAKE ANTIRATTLE) 2X 31478-14010 CAP, BLEEDER PLUG (FOR FRONT DISC BRAKE) 4X 90105-12175 BOLT, HEXAGON (FOR FRONT DISC BRAKE CALIPER) 2X 47748-14080 SPRING, ANTI-RATTLE, NO.1 (FOR FRONT DISC BRAKE) 2X 90468-12021 CLIP (FOR FRONT DISC BRAKE ANTIRATTLE) 1X 04945-14110 SHIM KIT, ANTI SQUEAL, FRONT 1X 04947-14010 FITTING KIT, DISC BRAKE, FRONT 4X 47389-24010 GASKET Rear 1X 47730-14270 CYLINDER ASSY, REAR DISC BRAKE, RH 1X 47750-14280 CYLINDER ASSY, DISC BRAKE, REAR LH 2X 42431-14150 DISC, REAR 4X 90105-12174 BOLT, HEXAGON (FOR REAR CALIPER) 4X 90240-06017 PIN, W/HOLE (FOR REAR DISC BRAKE) 2X 47748-14090 SPRING, ANTI-RATTLE, NO.1 (FOR REAR DISC BRAKE) 2X 90468-12020 CLIP (FOR REAR DISC BRAKE) 2X 31478-14010 CAP, BLEEDER PLUG (FOR REAR DISC BRAKE) 1X 04946-14030 SHIM KIT, ANTI SQUEAL (FOR REAR DISC BRAKE) 1X 04948-14010 FITTING KIT, DISC BRAKE, REAR 4X 47389-24010 GASKET I've not included pads, as I plan to buy aftermarket pads. Cheers Andy Edited April 26, 2009 by Andy Blyth Updated to cross out unnecessary parts (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Best to call Steve Manley for verificaion on those as he's supplied a load of kits and know what's needed. Either that or Nic who should be able to undercut the price on the calipers and ligther items. I am pretty sure you'll need to replace the brake lines too if you are converting from the smaller brakes. Also the dust shields will either need to be cut or replaced with the larger ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 If you are on a budget you can get away perfectly well with 4 calipers and 4 discs, plus whatever pads you want. the calipers come with pins, and nipple covers. the rest may stop some rattles but they work fine without all that *hit Trim the backing plates with an angle grinder, or remove the fronts completely. Original Jap spec bolts will hold the UK calipers, and you can use the original hoses, but braided are nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 you can use the original hoses, but braided are nice Really! That's different to what I've heard on here over the years - many traders have said that the UK and Jspec lines are not interchangeable due to a different thread size on the caliper. It might well be misinformation and need to flog parts, but if you can confirm they are the same I'll add this to an upcoming tech article on the UK brake swap (This was one of two question marks on it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Blyth Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Thanks guys! Best to call Steve Manley for verificaion on those as he's supplied a load of kits and know what's needed. Either that or Nic who should be able to undercut the price on the calipers and ligther items. I am pretty sure you'll need to replace the brake lines too if you are converting from the smaller brakes. Also the dust shields will either need to be cut or replaced with the larger ones. Yeah, I ordered a set of Goodridge stainless hoses earlier today. I'm going to change the hoses by themselves first to see how much of a difference they make. The dust shields will be getting trimmed back. If you are on a budget you can get away perfectly well with 4 calipers and 4 discs, plus whatever pads you want. the calipers come with pins, and nipple covers. the rest may stop some rattles but they work fine without all that *hit Trim the backing plates with an angle grinder, or remove the fronts completely. Original Jap spec bolts will hold the UK calipers, and you can use the original hoses, but braided are nice Just what I wanted to hear! BTW, do you have any UK calipers in stock? If you do I'll give you a bell in the morning to get a price before I go over to Toyota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 No, sorry, I have a few used J-Spec calipers, but no new or used UK ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 do you have any UK calipers in stock? Andy I have the 4 pot front + fitting kit + shim kit in stock, it would be next week now when I could post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Blyth Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Andy I have the 4 pot front + fitting kit + shim kit in stock, it would be next week now when I could post. OK thanks, would you mind sending a quote for the above, delivered to England. If you can get the equivalents for the rear axle quickly, I'd appreciate a quote for those too. Also a delivered price for a full set of Endless MX72 pads for the above brakes. Cheers Andy P.s. Not to put any pressure on, but I'm going down my local dealership lunchtime today for a quote. If you could get your quote in before then you could save me a trip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little num Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 hi bud, depending on what your going to use the car for to what pads needed, but me and my brother do alot of trackdays in our uk cars and use original toyota disc's with performance friction pads, with braided hose's and the best brake fluid you can buy srs or somthing like that (gets really hot without boiling) and we have never had any problems, you will be more then happy with the brake upgrade. Best £££ you will spend so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Don't know if it helps but I bought the following - T47730-14260 Disc Calliper FR T47750-14270 Disc Calliper FR T43512-14200 Brake Disc FR T43516-14030 Brake Disc FR T04945-14110 Shim Kit, Brake FR T04465-14150 Disc Pads, FR T04947-14010 Fitting Kit, FR T42431-14150 Brake Disc Rear X2 T47730-14270 Disc Calliper Rear T47750-14280 Disc Calliper Rear T04946-14030 Shim Kit, Brake Rear T04948-14010 Fitting Kit, Rear T04466-14040 Disc Pads, Rear £1025 (including delivery) from here - http://www.cheaptoyotaparts.co.uk [email protected] I also bought Goodridge hoses and Halfords 5.1 fluid separately. This included everything I needed. The only complaint I've got is the dust from the stock pads, but you're going a different route so not really applicable. I chose stock pads first, so if / when I go aftermarket I can gauge any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Blyth Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 hi bud, depending on what your going to use the car for to what pads needed, but me and my brother do alot of trackdays in our uk cars and use original toyota disc's with performance friction pads, with braided hose's and the best brake fluid you can buy srs or somthing like that (gets really hot without boiling) and we have never had any problems, you will be more then happy with the brake upgrade. Best £££ you will spend so far. Hi mate, The performance friction Z-rated pads were my first choice but I just can't get hold of them. I think they've been completely discontinued. No-one seems to have any remaining stock either. Even if I could find some, when it comes to replacement, I seriously doubt I could find an equivalent. Do you have a source for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Blyth Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Don't know if it helps but I bought the following ... Thanks for that, at least now I know I have the right part numbers! I had worries of 4 brand new and shiny J-spec calipers turning up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlT67 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Really! That's different to what I've heard on here over the years - many traders have said that the UK and Jspec lines are not interchangeable due to a different thread size on the caliper. It might well be misinformation and need to flog parts, but if you can confirm they are the same I'll add this to an upcoming tech article on the UK brake swap (This was one of two question marks on it) I hope not, I have been running the same Goodridge braided lines on mine that I had when Jspec and now Uk spec. I believe when I bought them form envy that they only do one set of brake lines so they must be interchangeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Blyth Posted April 19, 2009 Author Share Posted April 19, 2009 Really! That's different to what I've heard on here over the years - many traders have said that the UK and Jspec lines are not interchangeable due to a different thread size on the caliper. It might well be misinformation and need to flog parts, but if you can confirm they are the same I'll add this to an upcoming tech article on the UK brake swap (This was one of two question marks on it) You had me a bit worried there so I went to check for myself that the two lines were interchangable. In the attached captures, you can see data from toyodiy.com showing that the union bolts used on each caliper are the same for UK and JDM brakes, both on the front and back. The part number is 90401-10042. I think we can safely say now that the two brakes have identical thread sizes. HTH Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 I am pretty sure you'll need to replace the brake lines too if you are converting from the smaller brakes. Also the dust shields will either need to be cut or replaced with the larger ones. Nope, i didnt change my lines when I got my UK brakes, made no difference, all fitted together fine. I only have braided ones now because the old ones failed on the MOT - and i just removed the dust shields Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Blyth Posted April 26, 2009 Author Share Posted April 26, 2009 I've updated my first post to cross out the extra clips and springs that I didn't need to buy. Fitted all four brakes this weekend - what a difference! Very happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistonbroke Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Thought I'd add too this thread with my relatively recent experience in getting calipers overhauled. My S2000 suffered with the typical well known sticky caliper problem after only 2 weeks of ownership. I contacted EDC on the recommendation of someone on the S2000 forum. For £350 they sent a courier out to me, picked the calipers up, overhauled them completely with new pistons, seals......etc etc. and then couriered them back in less than a week. You can also specify the colour you want them powder coated in, (the default one is blingy gold). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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