jaymdee Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 My car is currently in a garage as I wanted the alignments done and they've just phoned and said that they're trying to free the rear camber bolts but are concerned that the bush may have rusted up. Is it possible to get a replacement for the Rear Inner Lower Arm Bush? From reading various posts it seems that you can get powerflex ones. Anyone know if this is correct? Have PM'd Miko_Supra, but thought I'd post up here. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 You can't get stock rubber bushes on their own, they're part of the suspension component they fit into. If you change one (from rubber to poly/other), the general opinion is that you really need to change all of the bushes at the affected end to avoid spurious overloading when driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 You can't get stock rubber bushes on their own, they're part of the suspension component they fit into. If you change one (from rubber to poly/other), the general opinion is that you really need to change all of the bushes at the affected end to avoid spurious overloading when driving. I agree with you there Steve. I'm wondering whether to tell the garage to stop while they can and see if I can arrange for a weeks time to get them to remove the arms and do the thing with Miko_Supra to get them all replaced, which I think takes a week (assuming he's not doing any others) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Center Gravity, when I had my geo done, didn't need to alter the camber much on one of my bushes that was sticking. So, as a temporary measure, Chris introduced some shear into that bush so he could stil get the desired setting. Like I say it wasn't far off so doing this wasn't too tricky and isn't going to drastically reduce the life of that bush (ultimately if left in it will split). It's bought me some time whilst I figure out whether to go poly or get all new suspension arms in order to stay stock... Dnk was in a similar situation, he bit the bullet and got all new OEM arms; he did a thread somewhere about what was involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 Steve, What do you mean by "introduced some shear into that bush" ? cheers mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I'll describe the part in question on my car as I understand it and from memory so it might not be entirely accurate but close enough: Looking at the part in question, there is a metal bit that goes through the middle of a ring-shaped rubber bush. The whole thing then sits intside another metal thing. Ideally the inner metal bit should be locked in place but can be unlocked and free(with sufficient leverage) to move (twist) for adjustment reasons, and then locked back in place again to retain that adjustment. When a bush like this seizes, that adjustment just isn't possible as the rubber bit has formed too great a bond with it's metal friend(s). However, on mine, the ideal geo setting could still be achieved by twisting the inner bit as required, and effectively pulling the inner edge of the rubber bush with it the outer edge staing whre it as as that's bonded to the outer metal component). Hence the bush underwent a degree of sheer. That probably isn't described adequately, but it's the best I can do I'm afriad. You're at the tech talk on Sunday aren't you? Can you ge the garage to hold off for a decision until next week, when you'll have had chance to ask an expert opinion about the options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 Thanks Steve, I understand your explaination. Afraid I'm not down for the Tech Talk session, as I've got far too much work to do on my MSC course and just can't afford to spend the time travelling Will phone garage and see if they can hold off at least until tomorrow, when I'll be able to pop up and talk to them face to face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 The stock bushes are spherical bearings, any aftermarket will be a downgrade in comparison. I'd personally replace the complete arm with new OEM one. If you do fit aftermarket bushes then make sure you replace both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 The stock bushes are spherical bearings, any aftermarket will be a downgrade in comparison. I'd personally replace the complete arm with new OEM one. If you do fit aftermarket bushes then make sure you replace both sides. Thanks for than Nic. Can you please PM me your 'best price' for new rear lower arms (do these come with ball joints?). In fact can you PM a price for all the arms/bits required to totally replace the old bushes cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Jon if you drop me an email to the address in my sig, I'll forward you a price list for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Jon if you drop me an email to the address in my sig, I'll forward you a price list for everything. sent u email too nic, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted April 2, 2009 Author Share Posted April 2, 2009 Jon if you drop me an email to the address in my sig, I'll forward you a price list for everything. Thanks Nic, Email sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt4tosupra Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 The stock bushes are spherical bearings, any aftermarket will be a downgrade in comparison. I'd personally replace the complete arm with new OEM one. If you do fit aftermarket bushes then make sure you replace both sides. Hi nic please can u pm me prices as well for those arms, as i've just got back from the garage with the exact same issue! the car is 'stuck' on -2 degrees camber and is eating the tyres! Also, how much are aftermarket bushes? cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellonman Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 dont use power flex had nothing but problems with there bushes for my supra best to stay oem which i had to go back to when the power flex had to much play and going over bumps round corners the hole back end would crab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Massimus Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 How much will cost the oem ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted June 17, 2009 Author Share Posted June 17, 2009 dont use power flex had nothing but problems with there bushes for my supra best to stay oem which i had to go back to when the power flex had to much play and going over bumps round corners the hole back end would crab Got mine done with powerflex in the end and it feels nice and tight and no 'crabbing'. much better than before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt4tosupra Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Got mine done with powerflex in the end and it feels nice and tight and no 'crabbing'. much better than before Did my gt4 with superflex and they were perfect! Better than stock! Anyway, the bushes on powerflex site are called 'rear track control arm bushes, inner and outer', are these the correct ones? (the arm connects between the shock and the subframe) As MrT will only sell the whole arms! Same as with the gt4!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted June 18, 2009 Author Share Posted June 18, 2009 Sounds about right. miko_supra will know best. Garage bought them for me and fitted them I'm sure it was inner and outer track control arm ones. I also needed toe control arm bushes or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt4tosupra Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Sounds about right. miko_supra will know best. Garage bought them for me and fitted them I'm sure it was inner and outer track control arm ones. I also needed toe control arm bushes or something like that. How much did you pay for all that mate? Think i'll just get the bushes ordered for £80, then give it to my garage to throw them in , he'll burn the old ones out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt4tosupra Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Bejesus! £54 from MrT for the camber adjust bolts and nuts and the bolts in bush at strutt end[ANGRY][/ANGRY]!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted June 19, 2009 Author Share Posted June 19, 2009 Yeah, needed new concentric camber nut jobbies too. All in, it was.... A lot!! Had geo done too and a few other little things, including fitting new front suspension and painting the rear disk/hubs black where they'd gone rusty and new handbrake shoes..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt4tosupra Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Yeah, needed new concentric camber nut jobbies too. All in, it was.... A lot!! Had geo done too and a few other little things, including fitting new front suspension and painting the rear disk/hubs black where they'd gone rusty and new handbrake shoes..... Sounds good mate! Funny tho how a job starts out as an £80 geo setup, and so far i'm spending £130 on bits, and the job'll be about the same again! [sHOCK][/sHOCK] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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