johnny g Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 It's the kind of trick that can only be pulled once though? And only on narrow tracks where a SC is certain? They must have been desperate for that win!! Oh without a doubt. I think that would narrow it down to street circuits only - unless it was a particularly bad one. It was their first win since Alonso won the 2006 WDC, wasn't it? Just so happened the back to back win might have just removed the doubt from the result, as they were flying after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Well, wouldn't that make Piquet some kind of accessory? . More than likely, he could've refused to do it. which makes me wonder how many times something like this before has happened - but where no jobs/positions/drives were lost and it's been kept quiet. Quite a few times I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I expect them to lose all their 2009 points (2008 can't be affected now). I don't expect a massive fine as unlike McLaren they have admitted guilt. The team will be saved but I expect Renault to quit by the end of 2010... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I expect them to lose all their 2009 points Which would be fantastic news for Force India! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Mosley has said he considers this a bigger offence than the McLaren saga so I'm expecting something quite heavy as a punishment. To reopen the Mosley conspiracy theories though... ... wasn't Briatore lining himself up to run for FIA President in place of Max? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Renault accept race-fix guilt! Britore and Symonds out!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8258987.stm briatore and symonds gone!!! http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5563045,00.html FFS! Do people just jump right to the end of threads and post stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiten55 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 FFS! Do people just jump right to the end of threads and post stuff? whooops. sorry chaps. i swear i even skimmed through the posts above mine to make sure i wasnt reposting. guess i got caught up in the excitement. not bad for 4,300+ posts. i would've bet my fingernails that i'd have made a mistake before post 100!!! sometimes i shock even myself anyway, as Renault are probably saying: "accidents will happen" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 The rest of the people there are innocent of any wrong-doing (at least relating to this). How do you know that? Maybe take the 10 points off that Fernando got from that now ill-fated race from this years total? Doesnt seem harsh enough, after all they endangered the life of the driver, the marshalls and spectators. They set the standards when they went after McLaren, I would expect some consistency in their decision. ... wasn't Briatore lining himself up to run for FIA President in place of Max? Oh no, another bloody life line for the mole... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 ... wasn't Briatore lining himself up to run for FIA President in place of Max? Todt was, didn't think Briatore was though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Remember Toyota was banned from rallying for 3 years for knowingly cheating in the mid 90's. What Renault have done is far, far worse than that, so resultantly the team deserve to be banned IMHO. I fully understand that people's livelihoods are at stake, although to be honest, even if they're not banned I could see Renault pulling out anyway. They've clearly been looking to jump for a number of years now, and with the current financial climate and 14 teams trying to enter into a (currently) 13 team championship, there's never been a better opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Remember Toyota was banned from rallying for 3 years for knowingly cheating in the mid 90's. What Renault have done is far, far worse than that, so resultantly the team deserve to be banned IMHO. I fully understand that people's livelihoods are at stake, although to be honest, even if they're not banned I could see Renault pulling out anyway. They've clearly been looking to jump for a number of years now, and with the current financial climate and 14 teams trying to enter into a (currently) 13 team championship, there's never been a better opportunity. Yep I agree...and if they were to be banned I expect most people could find re-employment via the new teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Yep I agree...and if they were to be banned I expect most people could find re-employment via the new teams. Well, a lot of teams have to cut back massively with the cost-cutting budgets coming in. It's not that easy I'd guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 im just glad flav is gone, he was a wanker whenever people talked to him, i never saw an interview on tv here he wasnt up himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathew Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 looks like he's gone! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8258987.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 looks like he's gone! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8258987.stm Wow, great news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steady_dave Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 looks like he's gone! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8258987.stm I think a repost post would be too obvious but hey....lol:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 looks like he's gone! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8258987.stm WOW! You're like a human version of those +1 TV channels only a day too frikkin late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 WOW! You're like a human version of those +1 TV channels only a day too frikkin late. FFS! Do people just jump right to the end of threads and post stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I've just heard Briatore and Symonds have gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 I've just heard Briatore and Symonds have gone! You don't have a link do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 You don't have a link do you? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/renault/6199028/Former-Renault-F1-managing-director-Flavio-Briatore-falls-on-his-sword.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 FFS guys. Why don't you read the thread instead of jumping in at the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 FFS guys. Why don't you read the thread instead of jumping in at the end? So have you heard the latest Ken? I think Briatore is on his way out, if he hasn't gone already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Yeah, I heard. Something about race fixing I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 So have you heard the latest Ken? I think Briatore is on his way out, if he hasn't gone already. No way! That's great news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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