TLicense Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Common sense rules for once! Bring on China You've got to be having a laugh! This is all over the definition of a "fully enclosed hole". This is really going to open up a whole can of worms as if it's possible to take the proverbial with regards to definitions to this extent, then the car whose designers are willing to push the limits of the english language the most are always going to have the fastest car. I would expect to see a lot more cars have "innovative designs" and a lot more results to be decided in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 It'll be funny if Brawn are still fastest when all of them have better diffusers. Brawn are likely to still have the fastest car as they've been developing their car longer than everyone else. I don't think they've been sat down there with their thumbs up their arses whilst everyone else works out what to do with their diffusers. Plus it's not just the diffuser that makes them better, it's the whole package which has the best part of 9 months development on some teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Shame really as Vettel has been showing promising pace. Good driver though he is, however reminds me a bit of Schumacher, pushing his competition off the track and moaning when things dont go his way. not really a fan of the guy. This season is Buttons.......hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Brawn are likely to still have the fastest car as they've been developing their car longer than everyone else. I don't think they've been sat down there with their thumbs up their arses whilst everyone else works out what to do with their diffusers. Plus it's not just the diffuser that makes them better, it's the whole package which has the best part of 9 months development on some teams. Agree, completely. Brawn, Williams, Toyota, etc have the diffuser as an integral part of the cars design. Everything else is honed and refined to work WITH that. RBR, McLaren, Ferrari, etc, will all have to adapt their current cars to incorporate the diffusers - which means compromise - and compromise is never as good as fully integrated designs. The limit on testing will also major hurt the integration of this. Sure, CFD and windtunnel can be used, again in limited amounts, but they are simulations and will never be a true representation of track time - McLarens rear wing is a perfect case in point. I think the rest of the pack will be now sorted by who's car can be easily adapted. My money goes to RBR - because even though they have more work to do, it's a section of the car rather than fiddling with minor parts here and there. Brawn FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Ron Dennis has now officially stepped down from McLaren F1. Also states Whitmarsh offered to quit F1 in the Australian GP incident. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8001425.stm What's McLaren's new sports car proj? I know they had the Sterling Moss thing a while ago.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I then asked Dennis whether he was leaving F1 to improve McLaren's chances at the hearing and he said 'no'. I'm sure it will help. What's McLaren's new sports car proj? I know they had the Sterling Moss thing a while ago.. http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/Industry-News/McLaren-plans-three-models-including-60k-sports-car/?content-block=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8002297.stm It will be interesting to see how much quicker they go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Another inmtersting point from that areticle - Ferrari are ditching the Kers system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Hamilton fastest in first practice session, Button fastest in 2nd session. http://www.formula1.com/ http://www.justin.tv/vip_racing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Ron Dennis has now officially stepped down from McLaren F1. Also states Whitmarsh offered to quit F1 in the Australian GP incident. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8001425.stm What's McLaren's new sports car proj? I know they had the Sterling Moss thing a while ago.. that is a real shame for Mclaren and for F1, wonder if the relationship between McLaren and the Hamiltons will still be the same; perhaps it has changed which is why Dennis decided to move on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Hamilton fastest in first practice session, Button fastest in 2nd session. Not so good for Hamilton in the second session but obviously we don't know what fuel loads they were running, the qualifying should be worth watching. that is a real shame for Mclaren and for F1, wonder if the relationship between McLaren and the Hamiltons will still be the same; perhaps it has changed which is why Dennis decided to move on..... Martin Whitmarsh was saying that him and Ron Dennis didn't always see eye to eye so it could well be better if Ron Dennis wasn't involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 that is a real shame for Mclaren and for F1, wonder if the relationship between McLaren and the Hamiltons will still be the same; perhaps it has changed which is why Dennis decided to move on..... Reading a few things in the press, Anthony Hamilton seems to be a very controlling person and is creating a lot of rifts, resulting in a strained relationships. Sack the Dad. Obviously as it is the press and good pinch of salt is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Wow, qualifying mixed things up a bit. This race tomorrow will be a corker I feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Wow, qualifying mixed things up a bit. This race tomorrow will be a corker I feel Indeed, wanted Webber to finish pole.......cant stand the vet Good luck to Brawn for tomorrow....Rubens did pretty well...very entertaining Q2 and Q3... Werid to see Hamiltons McLaren unload the front wheels in the corner like that....... Diffuser.....what diffuser - the red bull finished on pole WITHOUT one.......all bloody smoke and mirrors in F1 - as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Car weights. 1. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 644kg 2. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 637 3. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 646.5 4. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP, 661 5. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 659 6. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 664.5 7. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 650.5 8. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 673.5 9. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 679 10. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 673 11. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber, 679 12. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 697 13. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 690 14. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 682.7 15. Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso, 690 16. Nelson Piquet, Renault, 697.9 17. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber, 659 18. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 648 19. Timo Glock, Toyota, 652 20. Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India, 679.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Don't think it's a big surprise that Alonso is light - but that'll help him down to Turn 1. I think he might do a demon stint on the softer tyres then go long on the hard(er) tyres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Car weights. Looks like it's gonna be Glock & Kubica the guys on a mission straight off the line then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 anyone up and watching?? how do we change this commentator?? I like Brundel, but this other fool is driving me mental!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 anyone up and watching?? how do we change this commentator?? I like Brundel, but this other fool is driving me mental!!! Couldn't agree more, even James Allen was better than him; thought I'd never say that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Gutted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Great Race, unlucky Sutil, Good to see McClaren back up towards front of midfield and that red bull in the wet is fast, although a bit may be too do wit Brawn not knowing as much about the car in the wet. Ferrari though - ohh dear not looking good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Brilliant result for Red Bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 Gutted Such a shame, as he was doing SO well!!! A little too much pressure at the wrong time. Great Race, unlucky Sutil, Good to see McClaren back up towards front of midfield and that red bull in the wet is fast, although a bit may be too do wit Brawn not knowing as much about the car in the wet. Ferrari though - ohh dear not looking good! Hamilton did well in the beginning but seems to kill the tyres off too quickly! Brilliant result for Red Bull. Definitely! Vettel is the man! Bring on the Fantasy League results... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 what muppet arranges two GPs in asia in the rainy season i set my recorder from 7 to 10 the recording stopped two corners from the end of the last lap thanks bernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Kenny Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 what muppet arranges two GPs in asia in the rainy season ...thanks bernie You've answered your own question there dude. He doesn't care about you and me, he cares about VIEWING FIGURES O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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