Mark Ayling Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Just thought I'd share with everyone my experience with the B&M short-shift kit I had fitted to the Supra a few months ago: When I first had it fitted, I wasn't convinced about the "short-shiftness" of it at all....it didn't feel like a shorter shift at all really, just very notchy and "tight". Plus, since, I've never really got used to the thing and occasionally had trouble engaging certain gears, very random really. So I've been considering reverting back to the standard jobbie for a while...then today, I was given a reason to do so when the frigging thing snapped off in my hand at 130+mph around Goodwood racetrack ! Seriously, sliding round a corner at 70+mph with a detached gearstick in your hand is definitely "shitting-it" material! Luckily, I managed to nip into Chichester and get it bodge-welded back on for a fiver, enabling me to do a couple more sessions and get home, but I will be reverting to the standard shifter ASAP. Other than that, it was a fantastic day, some nice machinery there and the Supra definitely shone - got some great powersliding vids which I will post a link to later if anyone's interested. Cheers, Mark. PS I was going to do some sort of "my knob fell off" comedy-style title to this thread, but I'm better than that....but suffice to say that now my knob's been re-attached its working fine!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 I had a gear lever snap off in a qualifying session at Snetterton once; no fun at the end of the straight! I guess if you were that quick it had to be going into St. Mary's or Woodcote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ayling Posted September 24, 2002 Author Share Posted September 24, 2002 I never remember the names of all the corners, but it was the last one before the chicane by the pits...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinL Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 I heard that they have just released a new version of that shifter (funny that), bad luck if your an exisiting customer I suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ayling Posted September 24, 2002 Author Share Posted September 24, 2002 Well it would have to be considerably improved for me to buy another one - build quality aside (perhaps I was to violent with it? ), I wasn't really that pleased with the result anyway - its not as if the standard shift is "long", and its certainly accurate enough out of the box.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinL Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Originally posted by Mark Ayling Well it would have to be considerably improved for me to buy another one - build quality aside (perhaps I was to violent with it? ), I wasn't really that pleased with the result anyway - its not as if the standard shift is "long", and its certainly accurate enough out of the box.... That's why I didn't bother in the end. As a general rule if there are plenty of secondhand ones for sale in the US I steer clear of it. Anyone want to buy a lightweight flywheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Mark That's Woodcote - not a very big gravel trap is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ayling Posted September 25, 2002 Author Share Posted September 25, 2002 Originally posted by John Packham Mark That's Woodcote - not a very big gravel trap is it? I don't remember seeing any gravel there, just a small grass verge! In fact, Goodwood doesn't have any big run-offs, which can get quite scary at times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 Is this the corner with the Shell building on the outside just before the chicane - double apex one? Small gravel trap with a solid wall - I've been through it as a passenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ayling Posted September 25, 2002 Author Share Posted September 25, 2002 Yep that's the one - I was kind of exaggerating, to illustrate how short the run off is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 There's a bit of tarmac where the ambulance comes in right at the far end of the gravel which gives you a last chance of stopping before hitting the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raoul H Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 Originally posted by Mark Ayling Other than that, it was a fantastic day, some nice machinery there and the Supra definitely shone - got some great powersliding vids which I will post a link to later if anyone's interested. [/b] Doh! sorry about the shifter prob. I was considering buying one - perhaps I shouldn't bother. Anyway I'd certainly be interested in the footage. MPG or AVI format will do nicely Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 Mark Who organised the track day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ayling Posted September 25, 2002 Author Share Posted September 25, 2002 Will be digitising some of the more interesting bits tonight! The track day was organised by Bookatrack, cost me £169 and worth every penny! ...well actually it cost a bit more than that when you consider I got through 2 tanks of petrol and a set of tyres! (the tyres were on their last legs anyway, so its only fair to thrash the last bit of tread off round a track ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinL Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 Originally posted by Mark Ayling I don't remember seeing any gravel there, just a small grass verge! In fact, Goodwood doesn't have any big run-offs, which can get quite scary at times! I did Goodwood last year in the pi$$ing rain and a couple of cars went into a tyre wall.....scary track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ayling Posted September 25, 2002 Author Share Posted September 25, 2002 Yep, very fast and some very technical corners - the camber is all over the place. If it was raining I wouldn't have driven at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 Thanks for the warning Mark. I have a B&M short shift kit in the Integra, and even though the shift action is fine (and definately shorter in the Type R), I've put the standard shift lever in the boot in case the B&M decides to snap on my round Angelsey Circuit this Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 The MKIV has a pretty crap change on the six speed Getrag box, they are awful compared to a Skyline R32 or R33 box, and worse than the getrag in the R34. I am strongly believing a LONGEr gear lever with more travel (leverage) would improve things. Did a clutch today on a MKIV TT and was weighing up doing some on an exchange basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 I don't think i can recall hearing any good comments about quick shift kits for the Supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 Suprafact 10002, the gear lever on the late spec Supras is shorter than the early supras....(says so in the spec list...along with having a different type of LSD...plate based possibly). JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 Yep and all the yanks that have a later Supra try to get the earlier levers!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 Originally posted by Branners Suprafact 10002, the gear lever on the late spec Supras is shorter than the early supras....(says so in the spec list...along with having a different type of LSD...plate based possibly). JB Suprafact 10003, it is the other way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 Hey - clarify this, and quickly. It's important. I need to know if my 1996 facelift Soop gives me a bigger or smaller knob than pre-facelift owners... -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 Originally posted by Ian C Hey - clarify this, and quickly. It's important. I need to know if my 1996 facelift Soop gives me a bigger or smaller knob than pre-facelift owners... -Ian You MUST have been told that size is not as important as correct usage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Originally posted by Ian C Hey - clarify this, and quickly. It's important. I need to know if my 1996 facelift Soop gives me a bigger or smaller knob than pre-facelift owners... -Ian Longer shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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