Adam Kindness Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 due to my lack of turbos 2 sets, 2 good No2's, 2 No1's with no exhaust blades im looking for more!!!! Anyone recommend places for hybrids? and what do you think the following spec would produce? J-Spec with HKS superdrager HKS frontpipe CW Downpipe Apexi fuel comp Apexi boostcontroller HKS S-type IC Walbro pump Fuel pressure regulator pair of mild to not so mild hybrids running about 1.5+ bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinL Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 I wouldn't get too wrapped up the the BHP figures just be sure that you would have a quick car with that set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 How about an HKS fuel rail + 680cc injectors to go with that....other wise those poor 440's might pass out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kindness Posted September 23, 2002 Author Share Posted September 23, 2002 to be honest..... because i wont be able to afford them got my other car to pay final bit on, insure, tax etc soon plus all the gubbins above... i will consider it in a few months tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 In that case get the hybrids but stick to sub 1.2bar IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 Umm, arent no1 and no2 exactly the same turbo? Cant you just use the 2 good ones from each set to make a full set? Or am I being fick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ayling Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 Eh? Isn't the first turbo slightly smaller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinL Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 Originally posted by Mark Ayling Eh? Isn't the first turbo slightly smaller? Same size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinL Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 Originally posted by Branners Umm, arent no1 and no2 exactly the same turbo? Cant you just use the 2 good ones from each set to make a full set? Or am I being fick? I thought the wastagate was an integral part of No1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kindness Posted September 23, 2002 Author Share Posted September 23, 2002 whooooo.... can someone clear this up for me....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 I seem to remember reading somewhere that you could swap the housings round or something and use the #2 to replace a #1 or vice versa. No idea how you would do this or if it's difficult, or indeed if I'm just talking a load of sh1te (little sleep + beer = gibberish). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyefi Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 u could take the compressor, shaft, bearing and turbine from a good no1 and put them in a bad no2 housing (if its not damaged). voila, a good no1 & a good no2. if yr getting hybrids tho u ll be getting new shafts, compressors and turbines tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 I don't have much knowledge of hybrids! Excuse. But could you use a External Waste gate with a Hybrid turbo? If not what is needed for you to have this?Love the sound of an open wastegate!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 The turbo's are exactly the same size but the housings are different due to one being at the back of the engine and the other at the front. i.e. compressor output is on the right of the front turbo and the left of the rear turbo as you look from the drivers side wing. I guess in theory you can take the compressor and turbine wheels out of one and fit them in the housings of another, but i think you would want to check if there's any pitfalls with somebody who has a lot of experience with the CT12's first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 I had forgotten about the wastegate as well, that is in turbo1 so you cant just pop turbo2 on there (as well as the other facts that everybody else mentions). If you are stripping down to swap internals you may as well just go for a proper rebuild. Leon can get them rebuilt to stock but with steel internals if you want, it would be cheaper but at this point I think the investment in hybrids would be worth it. DO expect some additional lag low down with hybrids though, I couldnt understand why I was unable to launch Lee Burleys car properly at 10 of the Best until I realised he had hybrids which obviously took that little bit extra to spool. But what you lose low down you gain in the mid to top. JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 My turbos recently gave in on me, heavy smoking and drinking oil (the car not me ). I half considered getting rid but then decided to keep the car and spend some cash on it for once. The turbos are currently at Turbo Technics (going for hybrids) and I expect to get them back for the end of the week, they seem to know what they're on about down there and give a 24 month warrenty on their work. As Branners quite rightly pointed out going to hybrids will by their very nature increase lag however I will also be having a full de-cat ( CW down pipe & HKS Super Dragger ) which should reduce lag again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 I can vouch for Turb tech hybirds.. i've got mine fitted (CT12A) and yes they're on a slightly different engine, but id say they're well worth it. Lag is considerable up until 3000 then it just flies, and they're still running as stock. Speak to Giles ... he really seems to know his stuff. adi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 i agree with adi, Giles not only seem to know his stuff (which is reassuring with these kind of things) but is also helpful and enthusiastic whilst remaining realistic about the kind of gains you will get. Recomended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kindness Posted September 25, 2002 Author Share Posted September 25, 2002 the garage are trying to charge me 881 for the repair work..... (new battery and service included) They said they had fixed the car ..... only No1 spun up! Justins used turbos were in good nic when it went in.... No1 has no exhaust blades now! the car was drivable when it went in..... it is not now.... Good Deal isnt it!!!!!!!! fuck Sake! Just going to ship the car down to Justin now.... bit of a treck tho any ideas on prices or companies to get it down there from Edinburgh? And any idea's on what to do about the 'cowboy' garage? (they have been ok with me till money was a subject ).??? I emailed trading standars this morning to get a bit of advice, and have managed to get a cash price down to 700.... but thats still stupid money for making a car worse!!!! gurn gurn gurn!! still havent even fixed the rear damage from nova boy either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 You aren't paying anything to them. I've sent you a gargantuan private message. Stay cool. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kindness Posted September 25, 2002 Author Share Posted September 25, 2002 i dont mind paying for them to strip the turbos down the first time... and of course the service - say £400 but its them trying to charge for stripping twice..... plus my car is just lying there with no turbos on it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubermensch Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 I was wondering if anyone had a dyno plot of a hybrid setup. I'm in the process of deciding the future of my setup and I'd like to compare the hybrids to a small single turbo setup. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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