benkei Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Link I hope not!!! Speed doesn't kill people, lack of care and attention does! Besides, speed cameras don't catch drink drivers driving within the speed limits... THEY are the one's who put us in danger!! [/rant] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erol_h Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 What rubbish everytime i go through the average speed limit cameras i end up taking my eyes of the road more to make sure i havn't crept over the limit instead of viewing whats infront of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 They won't bring this in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L18msy Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Surely not!! 70 is way too low in this day and age with the technology in cars today. The driving tests are harder today than what they were when i passed, so hopefully better drivers should be appearing on the roads. They should be looking at raising it a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkei Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 But remember, they're not trying to make the roads safer, they're trying to make money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L18msy Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Dont they empty our wallets enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I saw a chap on the BBC the other morning saying it was a good idea. His daughter was killed by a speeding motorist on a country road. The point they totally missed was that if you're going to speed, you're going to do it whether the limit is 50 or 60. Usual response applies - we need more resources so physical Police Officers can be more proactive in stopping dangerous/careless drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkei Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 Dont they empty our wallets enough? Do you still have some money in there? If so, then no, there's still more for them to get from you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 The point they totally missed was that if you're going to speed, you're going to do it whether the limit is 50 or 60. However to some people, going over the limit by 10mph is ok so therefore they have just cut people doing 70 to 60 I still dont think that it'll happnen tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n boost Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 There is a petition against this at the number 10 site u can sign. I have sighned it but they will probably push it through anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steady_dave Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 wow, that sucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steady_dave Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Signed the petition, loads of names on there: http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/noNSLreduction/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra Size Me Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Instead of doing something sensible they do the opposite again It's about time we ousted these feeble minded losers from office. Have already pre-empted the "what is sensible then" and IMO they should decrease speed to 20 MPH in urban areas with speed cameras at ALL school locations, not just some downhill piece of road out in the middle of nowhere where you're likely to creep over the limit by a couple of miles per hour. (Round my way they seem to have put cameras everywhere apart from outside the schools where they're badly needed) To compensate a new limit of 90 MPH for dual carriageways and motorway should be introduced to compensate for the loss of journey time in the urban areas. With no cameras or bullcrap vans sat on bridges. If you take away too many peoples cars then they can't work so they sit on the rock n roll and sponge of the state instead of contribute to it through taxes. /rant over shuffles off muttering about if i ran the country things would be different etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n boost Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 What amaze's me is that we now have modern cars on the road with better safety features like multi airbags, braking systems etc and therefore cars should be able to slow down quicker than say in the 1970's but they still want to reduce the speed limit. All this eco c..rap is just a cover up for the gov't who's trying to rinse us dry to pay back there debt's through fines etc. Reducing the speed limit will actually cause more cars to be on the roads at the same time than before, as it will take longer for people to complete there journey's at 50. Also isn't the best fuel consumption supposed to be around the 56-60 mph mark? This gov't has lost the plot and i hope they out at the next elections! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_Mac Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I'll be surprised if they don't do this TBH. Think about it- -By changing the old NSL signs to mean 50mph there's no replacement costs for new signs = no cost. -Many drivers who don't hear about it, or forget, will get done for £60, x lots of drivers = extremely cost positive for government coffers. -Government can trumpet 'increased road safety' due to all the motorists getting caught doing 60mph on a long straight with good visibility. -Meanwhile the mongs who make driving on country lanes so dangerous will continue driving to the limit, not the conditions, and hence continue taking blind corners at ~40-50mph, because it's 'under the limit', which still means you're stuffed if you meet one coming 'round a corner. Likewise if someone pulls out of a badly designed junction and gets broadsided at 50mph, as opposed to 60mph, the outcome is still pretty similar. -In other words rather than spending money on better junction layouts where possible, reducing only dangerous areas to 50mph and educating idiots that driving to the conditions and the road you can see is far more important than the limit the government instead has gone for the option that puts money in their pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkei Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 This is a good post n boost, some good points to expand on... What amaze's me is that we now have modern cars on the road with better safety features like multi airbags, braking systems etc and therefore cars should be able to slow down quicker than say in the 1970's but they still want to reduce the speed limit. Because they want to stress us out as much as possible and infringe on our freedom! It's all to grind us down and kill our spirits. Of course cars are much better at gripping the road, braking and being a lot safer to be hit with due to crumple zones, but this is irrelevant as it doesn't cause us any inconvenience as a driver. All this eco c..rap is just a cover up for the gov't who's trying to rinse us dry to pay back there debt's through fines etc. Exactly. What do you think the government care about more? The comfort and convenience of your life, or money? Reducing the speed limit will actually cause more cars to be on the roads at the same time than before, as it will take longer for people to complete there journey's at 50. There by stressing us out more, lowering our outlook on life, and being ground into the floor, wit our spirits crushed. Then there's less resistance when they bring in stupid 'laws' for us to abide or pay. This gov't has lost the plot and i hope they out at the next elections! So you think whoever gets in next will be any different? All you are is like a battery which keeps the country operating. If you didn't work - the country would grind to a halt and get nowhere... So how does the government MAKE you work? They convince you to work by giving you money in return for your labour. Money which is worth nothing in reality, but to you, it is worth whatever they tell you it's worth, and to convince you this is true, they find ways of trying to get that money back off you, with 'acts' and 'statutes' which are not really crimes, but have a penaulty fine when you disobey it. So now, you value this money because you've been convinced it's worth something. And everyone has. You can trade it for goods, like food, clothes, and even cars, computers, and whatever you want. And this want for items, like cars, makes you want to work in order to get them, thus keeping you happy with your hard earned Supra, and keeping the country running. I feel I've gone off on a bit of a tangent there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I feel I've gone off on a bit of a tangent there I would agree, except I followed your tangent so far that I'd forgotten where it started, and couldn't remember the original topic anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkei Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share Posted March 12, 2009 I would agree, except I followed your tangent so far that I'd forgotten where it started, and couldn't remember the original topic anyway... All's well that ends well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotasupra1980 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Link I hope not!!! Speed doesn't kill people, lack of care and attention does! Besides, speed cameras don't catch drink drivers driving within the speed limits... THEY are the one's who put us in danger!! [/rant] Agree with you 100% - this country seriously has both lost the plot and gone straight to hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Hasn't reducing the speed limit on certain congested roads been proved to increase the flow of traffic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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