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IC to throttle-body pipe split. Bugger...


Kaleel

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I've posted this on the suprachat list to, but you MkIV heads will perhaps know more about this directly:

 

Well, I suppose it’s been coming for a while. The pipe from the IC to the throttle body has finally split. Poor thing, it’s getting old and probably is rather brittle now. With the extra boost I’ve been running for more than a year now it’s finally given up the ghost.

 

That begs the question: do I finally go for the HKS hard pipe kit? Looks like it. If so, do I get the pipe only from the IC to the throttle body, or am I going to have to replace the pipe from the turbos to the IC?

 

Tricky (and expensive). Arse!

 

Cheers,

Kaleel

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The older Blitz BOV kits and HKS BOV kits used to come with a hardpipe from IC to TB which might be a suitable replacement. I dont think you can get a single pipe in the hardpipe kits, you need the whole set which is a big old bunch of money.

 

Somebody on here might have an old Blitz BOV and hard pipe if you are lucky.

 

JB

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Yes, that's an idea, although I reckon that if the bit I blew was perished, the rest could well be too.

 

Actually I've just ordered a hard pipe HKS kit all the way from the turbos to the throttle body via the IC. Thought I'd better do it properly even though it's costing about £ 400 inc vat:(

 

Ta for the help.

 

Cheers,

Kaleel

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If you are paying £400 for the IC pipework it may be worth getting something like a Greddy intercooler which I believe comes with a full hard pipe kit, yes its going to cost about £1200 but at least you are then running an uprated IC as well so you can safely run 19psi all the time...the Blitz IC might have full hard pipe as well.

 

JB

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You're absolutely right, but I simply don't have the extra £ 800! Anyway, I've got a replacement 2nd hand IC to go in for the knackered existing one for now.

 

I'd certainly like to upgrade the IC later for a front mounted one and bigger turbos, but that's a lot later and a lot of money later too :D

 

Cheers,

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Originally posted by Kaleel

Yes, that's an idea, although I reckon that if the bit I blew was perished, the rest could well be too.

 

Actually I've just ordered a hard pipe HKS kit all the way from the turbos to the throttle body via the IC. Thought I'd better do it properly even though it's costing about £ 400 inc vat:(

 

Ta for the help.

 

Cheers,

Kaleel

 

There is a mob in the US called Direct engineering, they do hard pipe kits for stock turbo's with stock IC............. May well be cheaper.

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I did the Blue Peter fix when my IC hose went:

 

1. cut up a couple of coke cans and place layers of alu sheet over split.

 

2. hold firmly in place with a few big jubilee clips.

 

3. bandage with exhaust wrap and some gaffa tape

 

It wasn't pretty but lasted the couple of weeks it took to get a set of hard pipes.

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i have hks intercooler hard pipe kit on my supra,it will be coming off very soon and will be up for sale, paid £375 + vat for it

 

i have just got the blitz lm front mount intercooler yesterday :)

been waiting for ages

 

so when i have a few days off work i will attempt to fit it.

 

 

the hks intercooler hard pipe kit has a good finish to it,the blitz has a dull finish to it 4 big pipes and intercoolser and a radiator overflow bottle relocation

 

wonder if it will make much difference to power

i am running 1.3 bar at the moment

 

the hks intercooler pipes is a quality bit of kit for the money

when i first fit them they were a bitch to fit the rubber sleeves were so tight.put some butter on them next time and it goes on a treat while you get it in place.

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Mark check you get all the hard pipes with the Blitz FMIC, the HKS ones do not include 3 of the pipes which means you need to buy them separately. You probably won't notice much of a difference performance wise with the FMIC but it will be a lot safer to run at higher boost.

 

Try silicon lubricant to get the hoses on, it is available at most car accessory shops. You only need to use a very small amount to get the hoses on, it makes the job a little less of a bitch to do.;)

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hi nic

opend the blitz intercooler up last night had a quick look.it has 4 big pipes so would imagine its a full kit.its the new LM version slightly cheaper and 25% more efficient so the guy at race logic told me.i did not buy from racelogic but it came from them.

 

just a bit concerd of stripping all bumper and lights off to fit it. all instructions are in japanese too.

i wasnt expecting any power gains, just to run a cooler engine.thinking of getting water injection too.dont think its overkill do you

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He he, might have known there'd be a 2nd hand one just as I take delivery of mine. D'oh! Managed to get 10% off the retail price, so £ 375 -10% + vat = £ 396.56.

 

The pipes are really shiny mind. Nice:)

 

I hope all the pipes are there - did you mean that there are pipes missing when you're putting a FMIC on? I'm jst replacing my SMIC with another, less damaged one. I assume the pipes should go in fine.

 

Well, we'll see anyway - I'm about to drive the car round (at about 5 miles an hour) to the garage to get it all fitted.

 

Cheers,

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Mark

 

On the HKS FMIC you only get 4 pipes, 3 from the throttle body to the intercooler on the rhs and a single pipe on the lhs that connects to the stock hose to the turbos. If you have only got 4 pipes with your Blitz IC it may well be the same, although on the attached photo of a Blitz FMIC it shows all the pipes.

 

cheers

blitz_fmic.gif

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Originally posted by Kaleel

He he, might have known there'd be a 2nd hand one just as I take delivery of mine. D'oh! Managed to get 10% off the retail price, so £ 375 -10% + vat = £ 396.56.

 

The pipes are really shiny mind. Nice:)

 

I hope all the pipes are there - did you mean that there are pipes missing when you're putting a FMIC on? I'm jst replacing my SMIC with another, less damaged one. I assume the pipes should go in fine.

 

Well, we'll see anyway - I'm about to drive the car round (at about 5 miles an hour) to the garage to get it all fitted.

 

Cheers,

the pipes you are buying is a 5 pipe kit easy to fit yourself when you know where they go

 

i got told that the blitz kit is not a full pipe kit.but when i rang up about it they said its a full kit.was going to go with hks type r fmic, but found out blitz do the full pipe kit i decided to go with blitz quality.glen warren has the blitz intercooler on his car.

the BLITZ LM had just come out when i orderd the older blitz one.so cancelled that and got the blitz lm version 25% more efficient and cheaper price

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Originally posted by Nic

Mark

 

On the HKS FMIC you only get 4 pipes, 3 from the throttle body to the intercooler on the rhs and a single pipe on the lhs that connects to the stock hose to the turbos. If you have only got 4 pipes with your Blitz IC it may well be the same, although on the attached photo of a Blitz FMIC it shows all the pipes.

 

cheers

nic the blitz one i got is not like the pic it dont have loads of small pipes just 4 big pipes

the pipes have a seam weld joining them together

got the water bottle too

the core looks well

just using it on standard mumper for now

will have to look into getting a big open mouthed bumper

like veilside or blitz or bomex

got to be better than stock,and can get a cold air feed in where old intercooler was

it dont help working all time, and need to look for a runabout for work and something small as a project car.

fancy a mazda 323 4wd turbo they are pretty rapid off line.

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