Lee_e Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 hey guys im hoping to be a newbie supra owner in june but was wondering wether to go for the twin turbo or the non turbo, obviusly there is alot of difference in power but me being 21 would it be beneficial for me to go with the non turbo? as im not entirely sure on what the twin turbo insurance will be like . can anybody help me lol cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRACIE_LOU Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 hi newbie maybe!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicky Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Welcome! What cars have you driven previously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_e Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 hi . lol , gone from a 1.6 astra mk4 to a 2.0 turbo astra coupe . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 You driven any RWD cars at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJames Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I would suggest that u go for the 3.0i, some times u can get cheap insurance on TT's but I promise you... the running cost of a TT is not friendly... at 24 I could only just afford to run my TT and I was spending 60quid every 5 days... Im not just saying that cause I have a N/A for sale (3.5k ono), just its more of a realistic step up... anyways, thats my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steady_dave Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I would suggest that u go for the 3.0i, some times u can get cheap insurance on TT's but I promise you... the running cost of a TT is not friendly... at 24 I could only just afford to run my TT and I was spending 60quid every 5 days... Im not just saying that cause I have a N/A for sale (3.5k ono), just its more of a realistic step up... anyways, thats my opinion I agree, i've just come from a 1.8 (still my daily driver) I went to the N/A to get RWD experience. Besides if you get an N/A and decide after a bit you need more power either go N/A-T or give Keron a buzz on here, he does some great N/A-TT conversions with lots of happy customers me thinks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_e Posted February 19, 2009 Author Share Posted February 19, 2009 ahh cool you guys are a great help ill probably go with the N/A then as its cheaper to run and cheaper on insurance and cheaper all around lol , but another quik question iv never had a automatic before so whats tht like and also is it any different speed wise than the manual ?? cheers guys and girls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 ahh cool you guys are a great help ill probably go with the N/A then as its cheaper to run and cheaper on insurance and cheaper all around lol , but another quik question iv never had a automatic before so whats tht like and also is it any different speed wise than the manual ?? cheers guys and girls Suggest you read the basic guides on this forum for some general background info. I bought an N/A as my first car. A real beast to handle (her ass likes to disagree with me as to which way it should go) but I personally disagree with people who say go for the N/A to get experience. If you can afford a TT get one, they are better . Just make sure you are careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Hi Jim. Either or mate. Lots of people driving na's with huge grins on their face. Just not as huge a grin as those in TT's Disposable income would be your limiting factor along with skill level and / or whether you can resist stamping on the go pedal every 5 secs. Lots of people have been caught out even at low speed, with expensive results. Whichever you choose read all the info first, buying guides, servicing etc. here Good luck bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Welcome to the club! As for insurance costs, just phone up a few places and ask them. Make absolutely sure that they quote you for a mkIV supra and not a mkIII supra: the engine capacity (2998cc) and model designation (SZ, GZ, RZ, SZ-R, etc) are good indicators that they've correctly quoted you. Try at least one specialist insurance broker (e.g. Sky) as well as the big insurers, because the brokers can sometimes do better deals on imported cars. Everyone's got a different opinion as to whether people should go straight for a TT or use an NA as a "stepping stone". My advice would be, if you like power, go straight for the TT, but learn how it behaves in different conditions before developing a Heavy Right Foot. Whether to start with an NA first has less to do with the car and more to do with the attitude of the driver. Whatever you get, enjoy it! And post pictures up on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_e Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 ahh thanks guys , ur really making this easy for me lol so i shal post pics up in june when i have 1 , probs gunna go for the TT but all depends on how much i get Fooked on the insurance, is there anybody on here under 21 with a supra ? be nice to know what they been quoted . i think the insurance comparison websites are shite as they quoted me cheaper on a TT than the N/A model lol doesnt work out , so gotta work sumthing out i suppose. cheers guys and girls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 It's not unusal for TT insurance to be cheaper than NA, bizzare but true. Personally I'd recommend you to go for an NA 5spd based on your previous driving expeirence. The supra is a heavy RWD car and jumping to a turbocharged 300bhp after the cars you've mentioned is a massive step up in terms of the driving experience needed to handle one on the road. That said, a large amount will depend on your approach to driving on public roads and above all else your maturity. No offence intened but we've seen dozens of people like yourself who've bought one of these cars (NA or TT) and bin them in a month or two due to lack of experience, skill or lack of money to maintain them properly. If you do choose a TT, then a manual stock one would be a best choice in my opinion for a younger driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisD89 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Hi mate, I was 18 when i got insured for my UK spec Auto and the best quote i got was £1900 from Flexibell (Although paying monthly it worked out at £2400 a year!) but i believe j spec cars can be alot more to insure. With regards to driving experience, i went from a 1.8 Astra to the TT Supra and had no problems. Just remember to be SENSIBLE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-B Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I was in a similar situation to you when I was first deciding which supra to go with; I initially went with a manual SZ-R (step up from a A4 1.8t). For a non-turbo engine it’s pretty damn fast if you’re not familiar with big power cars, however I really did miss the pull of a turbo. As a result I soon got TT urges and after a long time of looking I found a nice 6 speed in great condition so thought what the hell!. For me the difference between the two is astounding when I first went on a test drive it really made the non turbo feel slow in comparison. I’ve never driven a supra with the auto box but always dismissed them due to personal preference, for me a Manual is the only option, an auto would just be a disappointment IMO. If you have concerns over which model to go for id recommend the turbo, a non-turbo might make you happy in the short term but if your anything like me you will always want a bit more. Selling my non-turbo was a hassle; luckily I sold mine just as the markets started dropping so didn’t lose too much money. Hope this helps, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_e Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 thanks guys , really appreciate all the comments and wise words of wisdom. think ill go with the TT just because iv wanted a supra all my life and to get a N/A , i would soon want more power etc . thanks to all of u and hope to see you all in june . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Welcome Jim. Enjoy that TT then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I see no reason why you can't go straight for a TT but it does depend on your maturity and how you drive. When i first got mine i went out with a friend who had lots of RWD experience and he ran me through the differences and what to do and how to drive it. It helped out a lot as i reckon i would have been straight to the scene of the accident otherwise. You have to totally change the way you drive the car, this is fairly obvious when you think about it but quite a few people don't and it costs them ! (previous car before the supra was a saxo vts) If you find a good example the TT is every bit as reliable as the N/A but there are a lot more bad examples than good these days so the potential for big bills is quite a bit higher with a TT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_e Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 ahh i see , well ill keep into consideration everything i need to know about supras etc when deciding to buy one in june . also just wondering if any of you guys can refer me to a good insurance company that cover imports or whatnot ? as i think 1600 for a 21 year old with 1 NCB and 3 years of experience is slightly off me thinks ? that was with admiral aswell . lol cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 It's a 300bhp heavy RWD car that in the last year has seen a lot of younger owners wreck them shortly after buying. The quote is a lot, but it's not so far off what most are quoted considering your age. Any car like this will cost a lot of money to insure, even for us lot that have been driving for 15 years. 1 years NCB is nothing and will not be helping matters at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_e Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 thats what i thought , but iv said for a long time im prepared to pay whatever the insurance aslong as they will insure me , i have always wanted a supra so will be very very careful etc as i know the power and how dangerous they can be in the wrong or right weather. my friend has one and its soo quik i know im not gunna be silly, im not some chav that just wants to go fast lol im someone who really appreciates supra for what it is . so who would u rekomend insurance company wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 To be honest I'm not too clued up on the cheapest insurance companies, I go for service and cover policy, but have that freedom being 32.. From what has been posted before the following are worth trying: Sky insurance (our club insurer, but they might not cover you) Adrian Flux Admiral Elephant (same company as above, but useless at paying out) A Plan special schemes in Thatcham Greenlight Always make sure they quote you on the correct car, it's very common for the call centre worker to select a MKIII instead of a MKIV and give a more favourable quote (and invalid insurance). An unmodified car would be your best bet. Mods, no matter how small, are a cash cow for insurance companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Hi Jim. There's not alot I can say that others haven't, other than if you do go for one, don't dismiss the automatic model. Many people who haven't driven one before turn thier noses up at it, but in many ways it is superior to the manual car. Listen to what people on the forum have to say though. There's alot of knowledge here, if you know where to look for it (The search button is very helpful) Good luck with your search, and if you do get one, just be careful. These cars can be a real handful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_e Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 cheers guys once again you all astound me at how clued up and helpful you all are being that i dont even have a supra yet.lol . i did always think the auto was a no-go. but u may have just opened my eyes. i know that the manual has a quiker 0-60 but end of the day its only half a second quiker than the auto is it not ? i would like to know on the other hand what its like owning a TT auto ? as there are many TT autos out there and as you say are being dismissed easily. is there anything wrong with the auto box or is it better because u save on clutch wear? its little things like these i need to pik up on and study etc so i dont make the wrong decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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