Matt H Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I just don't get how a custodial sentence, let along 2 months, could have possibly been even considered: The guys done a good thing in my opinion... See what you think: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/7892881.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dani_r Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 That's the state of the country at the minute, if he had called the police nothing would have been done, instead he took his own course of action and got sent down! You can't win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Well, he burst into someone's house and threatened to kill them, that's why he's doing time. If he'd have been let off, that would have opened the floodgates to all kind of vigilante acts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 this is the stupid laws we have.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris2o2 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Good on him but flushing five bags of heroin , thats got to be worth a few quid and i woudnt be surprised if there are come backs in the near future ! Im pretty sure dealers dont take to kindly to their crap being flushed down a toilet ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 Well, he burst into someone's house and threatened to kill them, that's why he's doing time. Do you even know what mitigation is?! The guys a drug dealers who's been supplying his sister, he go's in opens his gob and flushes some drugs, then leaves. No physical violence, just some big (and justified) words to try and stop him from selling to his family as i presume his sister is too messed up to take control herself. A few hours community at best, but to jail the guy - for 2 months?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexsum Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 no one knows his background - so it is pointless to coment on it - eg. this might be a light sentence if his pcs for example have a string of violent assaults/attempted murder etc. also the threats to kill may have been genuine but not carried through for some reason. in short we just don't know. but in general my view is that less than 12 months in jail is a fairly pointless exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 We don't know the full circumstances, he could have gone in there in a complete psycho rage and threatened unrestrained violence and murder. It doesn't matter if it's against smackheads or not, you can't take the law into your own hands like that otherwise there will be rule of violence, retribution and revenge - and not law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 We don't know the full circumstances, he could have gone in there in a complete psycho rage and threatened unrestrained violence and murder. It doesn't matter if it's against smackheads or not, you can't take the law into your own hands like that otherwise there will be rule of violence, retribution and revenge - and not law. Hit the nail on the head right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 but in general my view is that less than 12 months in jail is a fairly pointless exercise. So it's 12 months minimum then for any crime!! Hope they don't look through that CCTV of me taking a leak behind the office last Friday on the booze up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris2o2 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 So it's 12 months minimum then for any crime!! Hope they don't look through that CCTV of me taking a leak behind the office last Friday on the booze up!! Quick someone phone the office CCTV department Weve got him !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 but in general my view is that less than 12 months in jail is a fairly pointless exercise. Have you ever been to jail? Well if i was threatened with 2 months in Jail i'd be f"cking shitting myself, i'm sure the prospect would be the same for any normal person. 2 months is a very very long time to have no freedom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexsum Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 no, i mean short sentences don't work in general. they cost a fortune and lead to revolving crime patterns. if it is not worth a 12 month sentence then they should get an alternative to custody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 no, i mean short sentences don't work in general. they cost a fortune and lead to revolving crime patterns. if it is not worth a 12 month sentence then they should get an alternative to custody. That's a better explanation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkei Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Another example of how fucked up this country is. Breaking up families and injustice is what will grind us down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Another example of how fucked up this country is. Breaking up families and injustice is what will grind us down. Out of interest, what are the superior countries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonkin Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Fair play to the bloke i say. If i had a family member in this situation, do you think for 1 second i'd call the police and wait for them to piss about and maybe pay the bloke a visit within the next month. Yes, it is down to the person who is going there for drugs, he's simply supplying them, so his family member is also at fault. These are the crap laws we are surrounded by, people have had enough of standing by waiting for things not to happen. I've never found the police useful in any situation i have dealt with them in, and thats not having a pop at them, its just my experiences. It was clearly a moment of rage, and if he was in that situation again, im sure he'd do the same thing. What a waste of everyone's time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j80leo Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 What a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Well, he burst into someone's house and threatened to kill them, that's why he's doing time. "He immediately confessed to officers. " thats why he's doing the time............ If he had denied the threats, then what would the prosecution have had on him? the word of the a drug addict visiting a drug den!!? Crime may or may not pay but honesty certainly didn't in this case. No admission/confession, no case here IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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