Paul Whiffin Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 sounds interesting. How much? Concern does run through me at the sound of the word 'blown'. Why did it let go? Something went through it I'd have to get a quote but I think it'll work out about £900 approx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Here is a GT45 on the bay: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130287087656&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=003 they are v-band by the looks of it. Not holding the hot and cold sides together they aint. , they are bolted like you can see in this pic, looks like a completely different turbo to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondango Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Not holding the hot and cold sides together they aint. , they are bolted like you can see in this pic, looks like a completely different turbo to me. Yeah jamie, the one in the pics i posted looks suspiciously like a GT4508R, i'll ask steve next time im chatting to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Yeah jamie, the one in the pics i posted looks suspiciously like a GT4508R, i'll ask steve next time im chatting to him Yup i agree it does look like one with the big 1.44 .AR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Steve W's mkiii is running 7 second 1/4 miles with an XS-power GT45 and an Xs-power wastegate, with lots of 8 second runs.. seems china (USA) crap does work? It's hardly comparible considering the chassis it's fitted to. Last time I spoke to Steve he said it was not off the shelf. One thing is for sure, it's not that copy "GT45" truck turbo on the ebay adds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 he said it was not off the shelf. Not an XS shelf anyway:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajazyasin Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 would be interesting to know what it is Steve is using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajazyasin Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 in its initial setup it looked prettymuch stock with no v-band: http://px2.sfstatic.com/photos/XS-Power-Drag-Supra_1299843_530.jpg maybe it blew apart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 The turbo in that last pic is tiny for what'd be needed for a true 1000bhp. To my knowledge Steve's car never went on a reputable dyno, he had a tubbed shell and supra body parts layed over it with massive drag wheel and fixed rear. It's about as far from a car as you can get, a dedicated tack car that would undrivable on the road. This is more like the size you'd expect to see for a car with potential for 1000bhp: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/vbpicgallery.php?do=big&p=12779 The compressor housing alone is wider than the engine block! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondango Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) It's hardly comparible considering the chassis it's fitted to. Last time I spoke to Steve he said it was not off the shelf. One thing is for sure, it's not that copy "GT45" truck turbo on the ebay adds. Darryl that wasnt my point mate i know the cars tubbed. when i first seen the pics of the build, the engine was sporting the xs-power turbo. I assumed he was using it until i noticed the gt4508r in the new pics. One of the nicest 1000hp supras ive worked with is T51r Kai powered, still one of my fav turbo's out there:d Edited February 17, 2009 by bondango (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajazyasin Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) This is more like the size you'd expect to see for a car with potential for 1000bhp: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/vbpicgallery.php?do=big&p=12779 The compressor housing alone is wider than the engine block! funny how that doesn't look much bigger than my ol' T78! Edited February 17, 2009 by ajazyasin (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Darryl that wasnt my point mate i know the cars tubbed. when i first seen the pics of the build, the engine was sporting the xs-power turbo. I assumed he was using it until i noticed the gt4508r in the new pics. One of the nicest 1000hp supras ive worked with is T51r Kai powered, still one of my fav turbo's out there:d I know Marty, was a bit unsure whether to question what you'd hinted at as you know your turbos better than most here funny how that doesn't look much bigger than my ol' T78! On that you are oh so wrong, the GT42* is massive compared to the T78 or T88 greddy turbos. If you ever see them alongside, there is an absolutely enormous difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajazyasin Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 On that you are oh so wrong, the GT42* is massive compared to the T78 or T88 greddy turbos. If you ever see them alongside, there is an absolutely enormous difference. I know the gt42 is bigger. I was just comenting on how the pics look similar in size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARETT Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Garrett GT42 and the XS power GT45 are not at all comparible in terms of size or power rating. The GT45 XS one is actually smaller than the GT42 RS. The naming conventions are not the same for all manufacturers, thankfully the garrett range do make sense! Yup was under the impression that the Garret was bigger anyhow , was just saying the 42 is a big enough turbo to make a nice drag car as well. Speaking of which, what was the CRD Supra running back in it's hay-day?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondango Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 When it was yellow it Ran a T51r, I know dee changed the tubby before the car went up for sale, and reckoned it should be capable of very low 8's maybe even 7's, but he didnt say what they had changed it out too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I know the gt42 is bigger. I was just comenting on how the pics look similar in size. Maybe we are looking at different pictures, but the GT42 one looks far larger. I've seen many of these in real life and the GT42 is simply in another league to those old greddy truck turbo's on terms of overall size, mostly on the compressor housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajazyasin Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 man you are really funny. "the GT42 one looks far larger" It IS larger. But in those pics it doesn't look FAR larger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Have you seen the two side by side in real life fella? There is a seriously big difference. Anyway, it's getting off topic, you're asking about a turbo that would deliver 1000bhp with a reasonable spool, with which the responses have hopefully provided an answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajazyasin Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 thank you;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Have a search around on Supraforum regarding the T51, they class that as a dinosaur of a turbo compared to todays latest technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondango Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Jamie, Steves car is tunning a Borg Warner Airwerks extended tip S480 from Mikes Turbos in florida. He had been using the GT45 until it ran out of puff. As for the HKS T51r Kai, they say lots of things on supraforums as you know. Personally i think Its a great 1000+ capable turbo, its reliable, and its proven time and time again to do the job. On the right engine its an outstanding turbo IMHO Compared to the old non Dbb large frame turbos such as the Greddy T88 which are indeed old technology its years ahead in a world of its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajazyasin Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 for sure. All the greddy setups are(and indeed have been for some time) outdated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajazyasin Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 The thing is, I am going to be getting Ryan to do the mapping on this car and dont want to have to call him to Edinburgh twice! Im sure the t78 when fully mapped will put a v.big smile on my face but for similar spool characteristics, you could have a monster of a turbo sitting in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee P Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Jamie, Steves car is tunning a Borg Warner Airwerks extended tip S480 from Mikes Turbos in florida. He had been using the GT45 until it ran out of puff. As for the HKS T51r Kai, they say lots of things on supraforums as you know. Personally i think Its a great 1000+ capable turbo, its reliable, and its proven time and time again to do the job. On the right engine its an outstanding turbo IMHO Compared to the old non Dbb large frame turbos such as the Greddy T88 which are indeed old technology its years ahead in a world of its own. You would need a T51 SPL to get near 1000hp the KAI wouldn't do it. The BB T51's are really good turbos, the only reason the yanks dont rate them is they are expensive and they all wont 1200hp+ lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 You would need a T51 SPL to get near 1000hp the KAI wouldn't do it. The BB T51's are really good turbos, the only reason the yanks dont rate them is they are expensive and they all wont 1200hp+ lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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