Induction Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 Had a CW Downpipe and an HKS frontpipe fitted by Chris Wilson in Shropshire on Friday and finally got rid of the cats. The stock exhaust is still on there at the moment as Chris is waiting for the Super D to arrive - hopefully something like the 23rd / 24th (I'm going to the Nurburgring this weekend and it would have been great to have it for that, but I suppose it's something to look forward to for when I come back ) As for the increase just the two pipes have made at the moment, I'm very pleased with the result. The second turbo definitely comes in quicker and pulls harder. Generally, things happen a fair bit swifter than before. I'd got use to the performance but driving round the last few days has seen that original grin come back on my face. I've heard Chris mention that when the Drager goes on a similar increase in performance should be felt again - can't wait, extra performance and a gorgeous exhaust note to match!! Chris did a great job and had to deal with some very stubborn studs on one of the original pipes and also had to fit a boss onto the HKS pipe so that it could accept the o2 sensor. I had a chat with him afterwards about a few other things like intercoolers, radiators, etc., and was given pointers and advice on a number of things. If anybody is thinking about going down the route of a full de-cat then I can fully recommend doing it and would have no worries about also recommending Chris to do the work. I'll post again when the Drager has been fitted. Faster Pussycat, kill, kill .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisR Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 It seems alot of people are getting this done, however what about your next MOT and the emissions test, from what i gather its a struggle to get a Supra through its test at the best of times. Regards Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 The centre cat is a doddle to fit if needed... Failing that, a friendly MOT inspector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Induction Posted September 16, 2002 Author Share Posted September 16, 2002 Yeah, I'm just going to wack the middle cat back in place when it's next due for an MOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 Originally posted by Chris Rimes It seems alot of people are getting this done, however what about your next MOT and the emissions test, from what i gather its a struggle to get a Supra through its test at the best of times. Regards Chris If yours is a Jap import I believe that the latest changes to emission testing have resulted in imports that are not on the MOT test machine database (like import JZA80's :-)) only have to pass a very lenient test, and even a totally catless one should pass. I am 90% sure of these changes, but as both my MOT test centre owning pal and I were the worse for drink when we discussed it, I'd rather double check before commenting catagorically. In any case re fitting the 2nd cat is a 15 minute job, and it will pass easily any UK test then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 Originally posted by Induction Had a CW Downpipe and an HKS frontpipe fitted by Chris Wilson in Shropshire on Friday and finally got rid of the cats. The stock exhaust is still on there at the moment as Chris is waiting for the Super D to arrive - hopefully something like the 23rd / 24th (I'm going to the Nurburgring this weekend and it would have been great to have it for that, but I suppose it's something to look forward to for when I come back ) As for the increase just the two pipes have made at the moment, I'm very pleased with the result. The second turbo definitely comes in quicker and pulls harder. Generally, things happen a fair bit swifter than before. I'd got use to the performance but driving round the last few days has seen that original grin come back on my face. I've heard Chris mention that when the Drager goes on a similar increase in performance should be felt again - can't wait, extra performance and a gorgeous exhaust note to match!! Chris did a great job and had to deal with some very stubborn studs on one of the original pipes and also had to fit a boss onto the HKS pipe so that it could accept the o2 sensor. I had a chat with him afterwards about a few other things like intercoolers, radiators, etc., and was given pointers and advice on a number of things. If anybody is thinking about going down the route of a full de-cat then I can fully recommend doing it and would have no worries about also recommending Chris to do the work. I'll post again when the Drager has been fitted. Faster Pussycat, kill, kill .... Thanks for the kind words, glad you are pleased with it, removing the stock rear system for something freer flowing will make another big improvement. I CAN get bump stop rubbers for it, too, BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Sandham Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 Originally posted by Chris Wilson In any case re fitting the 2nd cat is a 15 minute job, and it will pass easily any UK test then. Mmmmm not quite sure about the "easily" bit. Mine came in damn close (see previous post on UK spec / MOT Emmisions for full data) Cheers Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Induction Posted September 17, 2002 Author Share Posted September 17, 2002 Chris On the topicThose AGX shocks are on and they make quite a difference to the handling of the car - much more direct and stable through the corners. There doesn't seem to be much difference between setting 2 thru 4 (2 being softer). I'm running on setting 4 at the moment and although the car does give a stiffer ride - particularly at slower speeds - it doesn't seem to compromise the general comfort levels. The tyres still touch the underside of the arches (as you said they would!) when going quickly and a fair bit of load gets applied to the fronts, such as in a dip where there's a bump, etc, in the middle, but it's not anywhere near as bad. Areas of road that I know would have caused a nasty noise before now only generate a brush on the arches. Maybe the Eibach springs do lower the car just that bit too much. Do you think the bump stop rubbers that you mention perhaps give me some more improvement? Jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 Originally posted by Induction Chris On the topicThose AGX shocks are on and they make quite a difference to the handling of the car - much more direct and stable through the corners. There doesn't seem to be much difference between setting 2 thru 4 (2 being softer). I'm running on setting 4 at the moment and although the car does give a stiffer ride - particularly at slower speeds - it doesn't seem to compromise the general comfort levels. The tyres still touch the underside of the arches (as you said they would!) when going quickly and a fair bit of load gets applied to the fronts, such as in a dip where there's a bump, etc, in the middle, but it's not anywhere near as bad. Areas of road that I know would have caused a nasty noise before now only generate a brush on the arches. Maybe the Eibach springs do lower the car just that bit too much. Do you think the bump stop rubbers that you mention perhaps give me some more improvement? Jules They will potentially fix the problem altogether, but I would have needed the shocks off the car to measure, cut and fit them. Now they are on it will make a lot trickier, but not impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Induction Posted September 17, 2002 Author Share Posted September 17, 2002 Originally posted by Chris Wilson They will potentially fix the problem altogether, but I would have needed the shocks off the car to measure, cut and fit them. Now they are on it will make a lot trickier, but not impossible. Right, when I bring the car in for the Super Drager to be fitted we'll have a chat then. Thanks Chris PS. Had the AGX shocks fitted on Monday as I've hardly got any spare time this week and wanted to get them on for the Nurburgring trip in the hope that they would either improve or cure the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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