johnd-mkiv Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Recently bought a brand new HKS wastgate from ebay, after asking the seller if it was genuine, he replied saying it was so I bought it. When I recieved the wastegate it looks very much to me like a copy there is no HKS logos on the wastegate, the seller insists they come like this but I know the ones I have seen and the one on my car are all stamped up with the logo. the pics below are of the wastgate I have recieved, paypal have sent me the following "We suggest that you obtain written proof from an unbiased third-party, such as a dealer, appraiser, or organisation qualified in the area of the item in question (other than yourself), which clearly identifies the item as not authentic. It should be clear from the document how the item you received differs from an authentic one. It should also give a detailed explanation of how the person evaluating the item determined that its not authentic" If you can post with your thoughts on this I can then send the link to paypal to help with the dispute thanks john d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T67supra Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 that is a XS POWER ONE:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 The exhaust flange looks to be rectangle? im sure they are square on the hks ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 ebay is becoming a pile of shit full of scammers and liers, hope you get it sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 he scammed you here you go mate that is a copy http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://img.alibaba.com/photo/10991975/HKS_Style_50mm_Wastegate.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.alibaba.com/product/2f2fmelbourne-10991975-10713602/productdetail.html&usg=__f0W71izlMrbLeW98KHszaB-QJfg=&h=360&w=360&sz=29&hl=en&start=5&um=1&tbnid=feH5fXMKaMaeUM:&tbnh=121&tbnw=121&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHKS%2Bwastegate%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) Mine is round and has HKS in the cast part of it. Will try and get some photos in a wee while. Doesn't look like the one in the link Jazz put up either, maybe cos its 65 mm? Edited January 28, 2009 by AlanM (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Any links to the ebay advert? Mine has HKS cast in the bottom part too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 here you go its more round and the orginal has a stamp on the base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd-mkiv Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 I thought it looked a lot like my old XS power wastegate, I have found these pictures and it clearly shows the HKS logos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 The exhaust flange looks to be rectangle? im sure they are square on the hks ones. I had a 50mm one on my MR2, & I'm pretty sure the base was slightly rectangular (and that was genuine from Envy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j80leo Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I am sure one of the club traders will help you on this and provide pictures from which they sell in there shops and online;) If you don't ask you do not get!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I had a 50mm one on my MR2, & I'm pretty sure the base was slightly rectangular (and that was genuine from Envy) Yea my bad. it was a trust one i had, could not get the xs one to fit as was rectangle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Although the 60mm VBand version here's mine with HKS cast into the base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Its a fake.HKS gates have the logo physically stamped on.New and old models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Although the 60mm VBand version here's mine with HKS cast into the base http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=86573&stc=1&d=1232228498 that where mine has HKS cast in to it as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARETT Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Recently bought a brand new HKS wastgate from ebay, after asking the seller if it was genuine, he replied saying it was so I bought it. When I recieved the wastegate it looks very much to me like a copy there is no HKS logos on the wastegate, the seller insists they come like this but I know the ones I have seen and the one on my car are all stamped up with the logo. the pics below are of the wastgate I have recieved, paypal have sent me the following "We suggest that you obtain written proof from an unbiased third-party, such as a dealer, appraiser, or organisation qualified in the area of the item in question (other than yourself), which clearly identifies the item as not authentic. It should be clear from the document how the item you received differs from an authentic one. It should also give a detailed explanation of how the person evaluating the item determined that its not authentic" http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j249/suprajd/bmw075.jpg http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j249/suprajd/bmw074.jpg http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j249/suprajd/bmw073.jpg http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j249/suprajd/bmw072.jpg If you can post with your thoughts on this I can then send the link to paypal to help with the dispute thanks john d Get an authorised trader to state the difference between that and a HKS original wastegate and then Paypal will have to give you your money back, as it would have come from a verified source... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 That is 100% an XS Power wastegate, worth about £80 at best. Even the bag and the bits in it are the same that come with the XS Power one! Edit - added some pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T67supra Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 That is 100% an XS Power wastegate, worth about £80 at best. Even the bag and the bits in it are the same that come with the XS Power one! Edit - added some pics my thought exactly:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 This is my genuine HKS one, ignore the cerachroming on the body, I did that. http://www.gatesgarth.com/HKS/DSC06577.JPG http://www.gatesgarth.com/HKS/DSC06578.JPG http://www.gatesgarth.com/HKS/DSC06579.JPG http://www.gatesgarth.com/HKS/DSC06580.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd-mkiv Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Thanks alot for all your help i'll forward it onto paypal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 The exhaust flange looks to be rectangle? im sure they are square on the hks ones. I know the old 50mm ones were rectangular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 This 50 mm one is definitely a rectangular mounting bolt pattern, and it's definitely a genuine one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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