Al Massey Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 ive done a search and not having much luck ive got folding mirrors fitted and i just bought a set with heated windows and im trying to see if i get can both to work together i was thinking of just putting the heated mirror element into my folding mirror, but dont know where to put the wires for the element or how to get it too work any help will be great if someone knows how to do it or knows of anyone that has cheers for any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wile e coyote Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Only help i can give is wire it in with the rear window demist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.osborne69 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Did you have any luck with this Allen, i have heated mirrors as standard and just bought some folding ones, then realised i can't have both and as we speak i'm currently dismantling one mirror to have a look at the wiring and then will do the same on the other However i can't seem to get the actual mirror of the clips itself as i don't want to break either of them P.S. sorry for old thread revival, but im not creating a new one if theres someone else looking into it (or was) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I have heated mirrors to fit into my folders too. I am planning to wire them into the heated rear screen so they function with with same button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.osborne69 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 well im not sure how it would work with the wiring on your side but i know for mine it should be as simple as adding 2 extra wires to each mirror and then to the switch, i hope I will post some pictures if i can work out how to do this as i go along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.osborne69 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 OK I have them both apart and I know what I need to do Looking at the above 2 images you should be able to see which is the heated one, the other is a folding one Now the only way I can do this is putting new cables into the folding one and attach them to the plug connector directly as mine is heated as standard and should save me some time in wiring After that I get a 2 pin connector and attach the previously connected cables to that for the folding action Now for the next stage I would need to see a inside wiring loom to find out where the two cables for the folding action leeds to and wire them up exactly the same And then in theory all should works as designed If you have your heated mirror apart could you send me a pic of the inside as where the neck is on middle there is a massive spring and I can't get the bottom off to remove the 2 needed cables for the heater Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 The folding mirrors has a different wiring loom to heated wires. They have 2 extra wires also. So it's a case of finding where to plug the look into, with the switch, not sure if it's plug and play on every car as mine had folding mirrors standard. Does take ages to separate the mirror, and it's fragile too. I ended up cutting into the mirror housing :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.osborne69 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I knew they had different wiring looms on the inside the car which I why I wanted a look Are you talking about the wiring for the doors as I assumed that would be the same except for the location of the pins that connect to the loom on the inside of the car I would cut into the mirror but the folding one is closed so I would be able to fit it temp while I sort out the wiring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 I knew they had different wiring looms on the inside the car which I why I wanted a look Are you talking about the wiring for the doors as I assumed that would be the same except for the location of the pins that connect to the loom on the inside of the car I would cut into the mirror but the folding one is closed so I would be able to fit it temp while I sort out the wiring Well I couldn't see any other connector when I stripped mine down, so not sure if it's a straight plug and play, but I wasn't really looking to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.osborne69 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I'm just cutting into the gromet of the door loom that came with the folding mirrors so I can trace the wires to the plug and check them against mine But when I get to fitting the switch I'm not sure how I would do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.osborne69 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 From the picture above I compared the connector with the one in mine and bot the orange and the pink wires are missing everything else is the same Now both of these two cables run all the way to the connector for the mirror and correspond to the correct location for the motor to fold the mirrors so these are the two cables I would need to add to the door loom Does anyone have something similar to this but for the wiring on the inside of the car that goes from the loom to the switch and wherever else it might go if not I will get a hold / buy the loom from the scrappy where I got the mirrors This is only for the drivers mirror I haven't looked at the passenger's one yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.osborne69 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 OK so it's exactly the same procedure for the passenger's side mirror I can confirm on the mirrors I have fitted both sides work as the should, the mirror adjustment works all four ways and the demisters come on when you turn on the rear window demister All I need to do now is fit the switch to allow both mirrors to fold in and out Does any one know how I can wire up the switch here's some info on what I have 2 cables from each mirror not connected but previously used for the fold action ( not standard in my car) hence the need for a diagram or help I assume there will be a live and an earth to the switch On this swith there is 4 pins I will also assume that 2 of the pins are for the mirrors 1 cable from each mirror to 1 of the terminals and the same for the last cable from both mirrors Sorry if this does not make any sense Will I need to use a fuse at all or some relays And which way round does everything get wired to the switch Thanks in advance I will try to write a guide once everything is complete and working correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.osborne69 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Just as a thought would it be possible to wire it to the locks instead of a swith so when the car is unlocked by alarm or key that it would do it automatically which would save me the time in cutting a hole in the dash or buying a new dash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted October 12, 2014 Author Share Posted October 12, 2014 Just as a thought would it be possible to wire it to the locks instead of a swith so when the car is unlocked by alarm or key that it would do it automatically which would save me the time in cutting a hole in the dash or buying a new dash Yes, I'm not 100% sure how, but my last alarm had this feature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.osborne69 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 All done and dusted, finally fitted the switch and everything works as it should, just need to respray the mirrors to match the car when I get chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 All done and dusted, finally fitted the switch and everything works as it should, just need to respray the mirrors to match the car when I get chance Sweet Nice little mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 How did the folding mirrors plug in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.osborne69 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Not according to plan after I connected them to the car loom I realised that I didn't have any wire with the terminals to go into the back of the male connector for the dash loom so I took them back out and connected both wires from either side together Orange with orange Grey with grey In my case After that I cut into the spare door loom I had to get 2 lengths of cable with the terminals on 1 for live which I connected to my radio live And 1 for earth with I connected to the earth point behind the drivers footwell After that I cut off 2 thinner cables with terminals and crimped 1 to the orange and 1 to the grey wire After that I just slid the terminals on to the back for the male spades on the switch using this picture I had to swap around the two cables for the mirrors until the mirrors folded with the correct position of the switch Once everything worked I just tucked it all away out of view Oh and I nearly forgot I blew the radio fuse as I pulled the switch a little hard and the live disconnected and hit another wire lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.osborne69 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 So now I have 2 mirrors for sale that still work with the mirror controls but doesn't have demisters or a folding motor, which tbh I never knew that my mirrors had a demister built in, but I had wondered why they cleared up rather quickly when it was cold outside, I did have the rear demister on as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.osborne69 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I can write a guide with pics if it's needed but I don't have any images of the wires in the car after I connected the mirrors although it should be too hard to take the dash, kick boards and door cards off if need be what 10 mins work for me that could save someone the confusion if I write a guide lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobUK Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Looks like you have figured out something that I'm about to attempt so cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.osborne69 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Let me know if you need any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobUK Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 18 months on and I attempted to fit my electric folding mirrors only to discover the plug on the mirror body is too big to go through the door.... Am I missing something?? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete.osborne69 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 How much bigger is the plug as mine went through like a treat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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