mikeyb10supra Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 The difference between us and chavs is that the stuff we put on our cars is there for a functional reason and chavs put stuff that doesn't perform any function at all most actually detract from the vehicles ability. Start bunging neons and stuff on then yes you might be placing yourself in the firing line for being called a chav. My point exactly mate.....thanks for backing me up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Veilside kit - no FMIC. Veilside skirts - rubbish brakes on the back. Big alloys (soon) - just for show. But then....... Loud stereo - will be put in alongside lots of soundproofing, and will NOT be turned up with the windows open! Loud exhaust - quite necessary for the power I'm running/want. All of the 'chav' bits above - I'm entered into a couple of shows already, so it's pointless going with a stock car really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 firstly why are touring cars and F1 cars using spoilers then....just for show I guess or cos there chavs NO....... Actually, the TOCA series touring cars have spoilers for cosmetic reasons only, it's in the description of them in the race program. The Supras' one is for looks only as well Charge temps are different to underbonnet temps. Reducing underbonnet temps may slightly affect the charge temperatures though. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Your call mate......dont see myself as a chav even if you do firstly why are touring cars and F1 cars using spoilers then....just for show I guess or cos there chavs NO.......if there not functional why use them.......same with supras and any other high performance car.....spoilers help with downforce at speed and seeing as there on there from the factory....that kind of means there probably needed ok so a 6 inch wheel would give better traction then a 10inch wide wheel??? cant see the logic.....wider wheel better grip and traction which probably means better handling i guess Flaring the arches and adding spacers are completely different......flaring the arches to add oversized wheels is obviously being done for a reason on a 900bhp supra Ok whats bonnet vent for then in your opinion?? bonnet vents are needed on high performance cars......anyone who has any idea about cars know that heat is the number 1 peformance killer and should be minimized at all costs.......so a big old scoop on the bonnt does let in a big feed of cold air.....so will cool the engine and help performance The stock supra spoiler provides a tiny, tiny amount of downforce, do a search on here for the details. Touring and F1 cars are race cars, they have proper tunable spoilers, not some big hoop of fibreglass. It's just possible that TOCA cars have spoilers because they are available in Halfords. Lots of mid-range saloons have spoilers on from factory, they're not there to help cornering, they're fitted to help sales figures. Wider tyres should help handling, but I've heard of many a modded car with it's handling destroyed by fitting huge alloys. The point is, a Chav (barry) would not consider these things but just buy big alloys because they're blingin'. Same with flared arches, fine if you ARE putting 335s on a huge power car, but most just pack out the arches with spacers. The bonnet vent, since we're talking about Supras, funnels air to a hot spot between cylinders 4 and 5. A design fault? It doesn't cool the charge temp at all. Scooby bonnet vents feed the intercooler on a scooby. Decorative cut-outs are just that and they let the rain in. From all that, it's clear to see that the line between performance and styling mods is being blurred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Supra'a ain't chav cars!!! There one of the only cars that can pull of mods and look amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 The difference between us and chavs is that the stuff we put on our cars is there for a functional reason and chavs put stuff that doesn't perform any function at all most actually detract from the vehicles ability. Lambo doors? - The ultimate chav accessory F&F style spoilers? - Anyone actually done any wind tunnel testing to get the angles set up right? Chromaflair paintjobs? - Looks pretty, but can easily fall into the chav category Graphics - Can look good, but very few do... Massive revcounters? - 'Cause Supra engines always rev past 8k! Dump valves that MUST go Pssssssssscchttttt - "Cause it sounds good" Flamer kits - Oh... My.... God.... Sorry DB, not picking on you, but your post made me think of some of the things I've seen on Supra's, or seen people here talking about, that could easliy be classed a Chavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRoy Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 yellow paint:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Samurai446 Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 I think its fair to say that anyone who modifies a car is a chav, its just divided into different catagories of chavs, we are obviously the cream of the chav crop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 All chav's are equal, but some are far more equal than others! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Dump valves are more functional than just noisey. Besides I think a fake BOV is chav rather than a normal BOV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Lambo doors? Try getting in and out of your car in any supermarket standard width parking space --- functional requirement. F&F style spoilers? I fully agree they can and some are indeed over the top. Others however like the trd ones are functional and adjustable. Chromaflair paintjobs? Well this is subjective. Some enhance the look of a vehicle and yes some do go over the top. Unecesary gauges and electronic box doofers? Yup and my car has its fair share of them which I really think are pants. Dump valves that scream look at me? Again probably got me on that but the loud ones are still more functional than the standard ones. Mine makes me smile and scares old ladies Flamer kits? Don't know many supes with them on as most seem to fire out their own flames without any assistance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 There's nothing wrong with dump valves, but my point is that I'm willing to put money on that fact that people change them to get the noise, whilst probably not having the first clue what it actually does.... Lambo doors? - They surely cannot be justified as any remote kind of functional requirement. They're a gimmick, nothing more. Don't get me wrong, I'm not having a dig at some of these things. I've got extra gauges and gadgets in my car, (Profec E-01 screen, motorised DVD player etc), and I sell flashy lights and huge subwoofers. My point is that no-one likes the thought of being a chav, but there are definatly a few chavy Supras around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 ....My point is that no-one likes the thought of being a chav, but there are definatly a few chavy Supras around. Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Where have you mounted your e01 screen Matt? I couldn't find anywhere that didn't look crap. Any pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 I'll justify any mod on my car, I ain't no chav -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Jake, TBH, I agree, ATM, it's kinda wedged in front of the speed, (least useful gauge!), but once I've finished fiddling with it, I'm intending to mount it in the centre console armrest. Out of sight. We have fitted a couple to the side of the dash, next to the radio, a bit like a cra phone cradle, and they don't look bad there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 I'll justify any mod on my car, I ain't no chav and what about the shopping list down both sides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Wow touching some raw nerves ehh. Chill it was just a bit of light hearted fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 and what about the shopping list down both sides? Having tuning products from: Apexi HKS GReddy Blitz Boostlogic Ohlins Speedline Cusco Aeromotive RC Engineering MVP Motorsports TRD K&N Walbro AEM installed, I find it hard to remember the main ones to tell people when they ask me. The 'shopping list', as you so disparagingly refer to it, is in actual fact a functional memory jogger. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 I'll justify any mod on my car, I ain't no chav -Ian Blue crank pulley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Blue crank pulley? I haven't got one of those and you should bloody know -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightwave Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Litewave is just going for the drift look http://www.its-me.co.jp/supra_drift.jpg I think to start off with to be chav takes a certain sort of car. Then you take things that would not normaly be made for or seen to go on the car. Say for eg. a Nova with an Escort Whale tail Spolier. Not made for each other, so why?? Or airvents on a 106, why?? what pourpose?? maybe to let out smoke when the guts have been reved to hell and back. That article is crap. Alloy wheels?? Does that mean all Porsche, Ferrari and BMW drivers (to name a few) are all Chav?? I think not. I think thewritter found the first car with a burberry wearing tw@% next to it and described it. Glad someone's got my back, thanks terribleturner kunwho... I disagree with a lot of the chav remarks here, but it really doesn't matter. I know I'm not a chav, but the question isn't about us, it's the cars. Are they chav cars? I think simply by virtue of the fact it's a Supra... it is NOT a chav car. The next question has to be... if you put a chav in a Supra, what would they do to it to chav it up? I'm afraid it would probably be worse than you can imagine... we're all very mild 'modders' by chav car standards, even my driftmobile. I think the chav cars referred to here are otherwise termed rice boy cars elsewhere in the world. They don't have chavs in the USA, but their modding scene suffers the same fate at the hands of the rice boy. I recommend the read: http://www.riceboypage.com/what_is_riceboy/ We are not chav. Our cars are not chav. We're not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 http://www.anti-rice.com Also, bloke at work said to me yesterday - whilst talking about the Autosports show late last year (I think) - "It was more for Shaun [bloke at work who builds rods] and you [meaning me], there were no supercars at all!!" He showed me pictures when he first came back from the show and they were all either custom americans or 'chav' type cars, there were a few 200sx's and a skyline etc. but most were Peugeot 306's and the like with big spoilers sticking out the back. I was quite miffed and started arguing that my car's a damn site nearer to being a supercar than anything that was there!!! I think he doesn't like my Veilside front, as terrible said (quoted by light) it was designed for the car and looks (IMO) good. Are we chavs? I say no of course not. Are Supras chav'ed? I say no, some might argue against, either way we're a league above the stereotype 'chav'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Glad someone's got my back, thanks terribleturner Anytime pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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