dandan Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Anyone ever done it or seen it? I'm just pricing up an Earls filter and associated hardware now ready to order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) Just bought one of these: http://www.holley.com/data/products/pictures/Large230306ERL.jpg ...and the fittings to drop it into the oil feed line. Edited January 12, 2009 by dandan (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I assume this is to go in the turbo oil feed line. What sort of pressure drop will you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) That's correct Phil - I will be coming off the block in dash 6 to the filter and then from the filter to the turbo in dash 3. I'm not sure on any pressure drop yet - I can test that when I get it but would need to know the flowrate to test it at first. The thing weighs 1kg so it isn't exactly small - I anticipate a negligible pressure drop....and may be less concerned about potential pressure drop than others as I will be running a DBB cartridge anyway. Edited January 12, 2009 by dandan Terrible grammar (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Why would you want an additional filter that almost certainly will pass bigger particles than the engine oil filter in front of it? Can't see the point in that, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) I'm not 100% familiar with the oil route "post filtering" in the 2JZ block Chris. Is there a direct gallery through the block to either of the turbo feeds straight from the filtered side of the filter...where there's zero chance of picking up any debris? Edit: I do have a spare block so I can check this out but right now I am immobile and I was also ordering all my Earls parts so it was quick decision time for a quick shipping deal to be honoured. Edited January 12, 2009 by dandan (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 The oil feeds to the stock turbos is of fully filtered oil anyway, they are effectively off the main gallery. ALL feeds to everything are filtered anyway. Is that proposed filter happy with full temp engine oil, BTW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Is that proposed filter happy with full temp engine oil, BTW?The little smiley man on the label seems happy enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 I know all the feeds are filtered but what I don't know if if the 2JZ has a dedicated gallery that runs from the filter purely to the turbo oil feeds on the side of the block. If it does then I agree it's a waste......I assumed that this is not the case. I wanted a "rock catcher" in place in case any debris got created in the engine (post filter) and found its way to the turbo. If I had some sort of engine failure it would be nice to have a chance of salvaging the turbo at least. I agree that if there is a dedicated gallery feed then this can't happen. As far as the temp question - if I find out it isn't then it will go back as it is sold as an oil filter for this kind of purpose. I can run it for a few hundred hours at pretty much any temp and flowrate I need to and see how it performs if I'm left with any doubts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 I can run it for a few hundred hours at pretty much any temp and flowrate I need to and see how it performs if I'm left with any doubts. Impressive, what do you do for a living/how come you have such facilities (if you don't mind me asking!)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) For anyone who's interested: The filter has a 140micron mesh. From what I can remember, most regular oil filters will advertise as capable of catching particles in the 5-30 micron range but in reality will pass an awful lot of material well over 40 microns. Don't get the wrong impression though - as a sole oil filter for engine oil this item would be a very bad choice - the mesh is reasonably coarse by modern filter standards and would not provide adequate protection. As a rock catcher the 140 micron good enough for what I want - helping to prevent irreparable and immediate turbo bearing damage as a result of an engine failure. If I wanted to get more into it then I can drop the mesh size as long as it doesn't drop too much pressure but I can't really be bothered with that! However - I'm not sure it's worth it now if either turbo feed is isolated all the way from the main filter.... Impressive, what do you do for a living/how come you have such facilities (if you don't mind me asking!)? I design stuff Edited January 12, 2009 by dandan (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I wouldn't worry, in the case of engine failure, it's the chunks of piston, valve, rings etc exiting via your exhaust wheel that'll wreck the turbo, not anything in the oil. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 i wouldn't worry, in the case of engine failure, it's the chunks of piston, valve, rings etc exiting via your exhaust wheel that'll wreck the turbo, not anything in the oil. -ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 I wouldn't worry, in the case of engine failure, it's the chunks of piston, valve, rings etc exiting via your exhaust wheel that'll wreck the turbo, not anything in the oil. -Ian Unless I spin a shell or something similar equally less catastrophic than spitting a piston. I've bought it now so unless it drops masses of pressure then I'll stick it in.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylestt Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Dan, pressure drop is a moot point I believe mate as you mentioned in a previous post. Its a -3AN that your going to connect to the turbo, but the turbo is DBB so their is the restrictor in that fitting so your going WAY smaller than a -3 in reality. if that makes sense... lol.. i have had a long day at the office and its still not time to go home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 Makes perfect sense mate, we are in agreement. It would have to be a huge restriction to be of any concern to the DBB cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylestt Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I mean i dont see the need for the filter....but it wont cause any restrictions to the DBB turbo. I would check to see if their is any temperature warnings on it. Like must not be over certain degrees? Cause the oil temp will be considerablly higher than any fuel that it was probably designed for. Other than mate, no harm in trying it ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra matt Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 will be fine mate i ran the same set up on mine ., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 I would check to see if their is any temperature warnings on it. Like must not be over certain degrees? Cause the oil temp will be considerablly higher than any fuel that it was probably designed for. Other than mate, no harm in trying it ;-) It's sold as an oil filter. The fuel filters have a finer mesh down to about 30 microns....thse I am not sure about temperature limits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Unless I spin a shell or something similar equally less catastrophic than spitting a piston. I've bought it now so unless it drops masses of pressure then I'll stick it in.... If you get enough shrapnel in the oil to wreck the turbo bearings I'd imagine every other bearing surface stands a chance of being dead as well Is it, perchance, anodised and shiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 If I had some sort of engine failure it would be nice to have a chance of salvaging the turbo at least. If you get enough shrapnel in the oil to wreck the turbo bearings I'd imagine every other bearing surface stands a chance of being dead as well We agree. Is it, perchance, anodised and shiny Unfortunately it's blue - a black one would have been ideal to match all the black Anotuff fittings. Fortunately it will be tucked out of sight so it won't stand out as a blue beacon!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I'm wondering if the pressure drop might be an issue. The restrictor is there to stop the DBB cartridge getting too much oil, but does it also form a spray mist effect or something? That the bearings need? Would this be affected by dropping the pressure earlier in the line? I've no idea Anyone got a schematic of the DBB cartridge? -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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