Guest johnnie Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 At that point in my opinion weight doesn't matter much if it is still a car not a truck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 Anything exceed 600HP is fast for me, if below 600 thats simple So you don't consider the Caterham R500 or cars like the Exige 240, KTM X-BOW, Aerial Atom etc to be "fast" then? Ferrari F430 Scuderia isn't fast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 It would have to be lap times as this tests all the performance qualities of a car. If it was just 0-60 then there could be a case in the future where a car could be limited to 60mph and go no faster, but it could get there in 4 seconds. But then an unrestricted car could do 0-60 in 6 seconds and be able to do 150mph. A race around Monza would show that 0-60 is not everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Any time attack car by Whiffo Whiffin lol Its all about power to weight, always has been. But depends on what you mean by fast, or more precisely where you go fast. As proven on Top Gear sure the Bug Veyron is the worlds fastest car, but not on a circuit. Surely anything like 0-100 is irrelevant cos the speed limits only 70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 If the uk speed limit is 70. Why cant they produce a car is geared to do only 70/80mph and will therefor accelerate better than an equivalent car that would do 130mph say. Wouldnt have to be a big engine either, so the emissions would be good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 If the uk speed limit is 70. Why cant they produce a car is geared to do only 70/80mph and will therefor accelerate better than an equivalent car that would do 130mph say. Wouldnt have to be a big engine either, so the emissions would be good too. Because nobody would buy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 0-60 doesn't do it for me, more the mid range speed pulls say between 40 - 150 etc. Was it the last 911 with VNT turbos that did 40-70 in 1 second or something? That's fast. A car that can live with (not beat) a big bike is also fast i think. Fast laps of a circuit also indicate a fast car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 If the uk speed limit is 70. Why cant they produce a car is geared to do only 70/80mph and will therefor accelerate better than an equivalent car that would do 130mph say. Wouldnt have to be a big engine either, so the emissions would be good too. Any time attack car by Whiffo Whiffin lol Its all about power to weight, always has been. But depends on what you mean by fast, or more precisely where you go fast. As proven on Top Gear sure the Bug Veyron is the worlds fastest car, but not on a circuit. Surely anything like 0-100 is irrelevant cos the speed limits only 70 If the government of the time didn't get all nannyish about the speed limits on motorways when they first opened then the speed limit may have been quite different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnanshah247 Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 when your girlfriend starts screaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 when your girlfriend starts screaming. mmm- I can think of many unrelated fast car comments to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnanshah247 Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 mmm- I can think of many unrelated fast car comments to this lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesG Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 If the uk speed limit is 70. Why cant they produce a car is geared to do only 70/80mph and will therefor accelerate better than an equivalent car that would do 130mph say. Wouldnt have to be a big engine either, so the emissions would be good too. 70mph@7000rpm? You'd go deaf, your car would overheat and you'd consume more fuel than a tanker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Anything that can do the 1/4 in 12 seconds or under is a fast car. That's mine fecked then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkei Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 By fast, do you mean max speed, or acceleration? Both are important factors, but which is the most relevant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dangerousandy Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 70mph@7000rpm? You'd go deaf, your car would overheat and you'd consume more fuel than a tanker Change out of 2nd gear then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dangerousandy Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 when your girlfriend starts screaming. Does that mean the Starlet 1.0 GL I bought for my ex is a fast car!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Interesting that only a couple of comments so far have alluded to the inclusion of cornering speed (or "circuit lap times" in the comments). Is that telling of a Supra forum? I've had my ass handed to me on more than one occasion by far less powerful, but better handling cars (your typical 4WD "nutter" cars - scoobys and evos - plus all the little elise-type kiddy go karts are probably quicker A to B on anything less than major A roads than a GT car like the Supra). In the Aristo it's even worse! I need lots of straight bits in order to keep up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Anything that makes your passenger shout "Oh sh*t, that's fast!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 By fast, do you mean max speed, or acceleration? Both are important factors, but which is the most relevant? I'm asking the questions here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnnie Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 So you don't consider the Caterham R500 or cars like the Exige 240, KTM X-BOW, Aerial Atom etc to be "fast" then? Ferrari F430 Scuderia isn't fast? As I said, below 600 HP is SIMPLE for me. CCX, Veyron, and highly modified cars are the cars I considered FAST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Anything that makes your passenger shout "Oh sh*t, that's fast!" I think its fast when the driver shouts that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 As I said, below 600 HP is SIMPLE for me. Yes, you said that but I still have no idea WHAT YOU MEAN by it, maybe if you wrote more of it in capitals it WOULD HELP? It's confusing though, I mean there are cars with less than 600bhp that are "faster" than the cars you've mentioned around a track or point to point... but are they slow in your eyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 For my mind any car that actually scares the driver driving it under acceleration more than 75% is "fast" be that a kid in a suped up saxo or a revered pro in GT1 race car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Isn't it obvious, it's when a Supe goes BPU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 well said jay lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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