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At what point is a car considered "fast"?


michael

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It would have to be lap times as this tests all the performance qualities of a car.

 

If it was just 0-60 then there could be a case in the future where a car could be limited to 60mph and go no faster, but it could get there in 4 seconds. But then an unrestricted car could do 0-60 in 6 seconds and be able to do 150mph. A race around Monza would show that 0-60 is not everything.

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Any time attack car by Whiffo Whiffin lol

Its all about power to weight, always has been. But depends on what you mean by fast, or more precisely where you go fast. As proven on Top Gear sure the Bug Veyron is the worlds fastest car, but not on a circuit.

Surely anything like 0-100 is irrelevant cos the speed limits only 70 ;)

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If the uk speed limit is 70. Why cant they produce a car is geared to do only 70/80mph and will therefor accelerate better than an equivalent car that would do 130mph say. Wouldnt have to be a big engine either, so the emissions would be good too.

Because nobody would buy it :p

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0-60 doesn't do it for me, more the mid range speed pulls say between 40 - 150 etc. Was it the last 911 with VNT turbos that did 40-70 in 1 second or something? That's fast. A car that can live with (not beat) a big bike is also fast i think. Fast laps of a circuit also indicate a fast car

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If the uk speed limit is 70. Why cant they produce a car is geared to do only 70/80mph and will therefor accelerate better than an equivalent car that would do 130mph say. Wouldnt have to be a big engine either, so the emissions would be good too.

 

Any time attack car by Whiffo Whiffin lol

Its all about power to weight, always has been. But depends on what you mean by fast, or more precisely where you go fast. As proven on Top Gear sure the Bug Veyron is the worlds fastest car, but not on a circuit.

Surely anything like 0-100 is irrelevant cos the speed limits only 70 ;)

 

 

If the government of the time didn't get all nannyish about the speed limits on motorways when they first opened then the speed limit may have been quite different.

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If the uk speed limit is 70. Why cant they produce a car is geared to do only 70/80mph and will therefor accelerate better than an equivalent car that would do 130mph say. Wouldnt have to be a big engine either, so the emissions would be good too.

 

70mph@7000rpm?

 

You'd go deaf, your car would overheat and you'd consume more fuel than a tanker :D

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Interesting that only a couple of comments so far have alluded to the inclusion of cornering speed (or "circuit lap times" in the comments).

 

Is that telling of a Supra forum? I've had my ass handed to me on more than one occasion by far less powerful, but better handling cars (your typical 4WD "nutter" cars - scoobys and evos - plus all the little elise-type kiddy go karts are probably quicker A to B on anything less than major A roads than a GT car like the Supra).

 

In the Aristo it's even worse! I need lots of straight bits in order to keep up! :(

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So you don't consider the Caterham R500 or cars like the Exige 240, KTM X-BOW, Aerial Atom etc to be "fast" then?

 

Ferrari F430 Scuderia isn't fast?

 

As I said, below 600 HP is SIMPLE for me.

 

CCX, Veyron, and highly modified cars are the cars I considered FAST.

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As I said, below 600 HP is SIMPLE for me.

 

Yes, you said that but I still have no idea WHAT YOU MEAN by it, maybe if you wrote more of it in capitals it WOULD HELP?

 

It's confusing though, I mean there are cars with less than 600bhp that are "faster" than the cars you've mentioned around a track or point to point... but are they slow in your eyes?

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