Wez Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 NEWSFLASH - I went out for lunch. Town was deserted. Rang my Mrs at work on the mobile. She works in the next biggest town along. She said that was deserted at lunchtime as well. Just had a chat with lady in the post office passing the time of day and she said "you could not move in Tesco's this morning" Exactly the same here and we are mostly all to blame. I needed to get my misses an xmas card, my boss needed to grab some toys and food. The town is a 5min walk and has shops to cater for all of these but we drove to a large Tesco so we could do it all in one go, the place was rammed, car park over spilling to surrounding roads etc. The town is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extendor Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 The town is dead. Long live the supermarket. And a pox on local government!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 In the town we have two butchers selling game, fresh local meats and sausages, three greengrocers selling all organic veg produced locally and two bakers with an amazing array of hand made cakes, logs and pastries. we also have a herd of traffic wardens prowling about making sure everyone does not overstay the 30min spaces. Fantastic. The local butchers shop in Camberley (Frimley Road) I passed this morning had queues out of the door. Same for the other similar shops along there. ...Tesco "Express" filling in a gap that they created when they pushed the smaller independants to the wall. Yes, but our local Tesco express is a hundred times better than the corner shop it replaced. Better choice, better prices, more stock. Fundamentally they run a better business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Yes, but our local Tesco express is a hundred times better than the corner shop it replaced. Better choice, better prices, more stock. Fundamentally they run a better business. Better business yes, but they have no soul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Better business yes, but they have no soul. i was sure they had a fish counter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Better business yes, but they have no soul. i was sure they had a fish counter. *must resist the fish pun continuation opportunity* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 i was sure they had a fish counter. *must resist the fish pun continuation opportunity* Don't then, but they do sell shoes, for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 I have often found in my experience that in fact Tescos especially when it comes to electricals and such like are not necessarily cheaper. If you take a look at the change in consumer habits, you'll find that these days, more and more people are becoming more consumer aware and are using the internet for shopping. Some high street stores offer excellent internet only deals that can't be obtained instore. Figures released over the xmas period have shown that although there might be more people out visiting shopping centres, they aren't necessarily buying. If I'm going to buy say a new TV, then I might visit a shop to see the item physically, and then use various price comparison sites (that don't flood your email with tat ) and get the best deal online. So I couldn't necessarily blame Tescos, I think the way we shop has changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 i was sure they had a fish counter. Badum tshhhhhhhh 'Give it up for marc_p on the drums' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Indeed, Tesco et al aren't to blame. Consumers are (me included). Tesco is a hard-nosed business that will expand to take as much consumers' hard-earned cash as possible. That's what it does. It'd be naive to expect it to do anything else. Whether our actions are good for us long term (i.e. shopping only in supermarkets, driving the smaller retailers out of business) is another question. I think perhaps not, but when people want/need to buy things as cheaply as possible, it's difficult to get them to change their habits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 So I couldn't necessarily blame Tescos, I think the way we shop has changed. True in that in the news it's all doom and gloom with poor high street sales etc, the real news is that internet sales are where it's at and have quite simply taken over. The small business on the high street that is no more, have not gone out of business - they have just gone online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 it's like th middle ages where markets became the rasion d'etre for the town, sidelining the church a bit. also if i can pull in tesco, anyone can. god bless tesco and evertying it stands for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extendor Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 it's like th middle ages where markets became the rasion d'etre for the town, sidelining the church a bit. also if i can pull in tesco, anyone can. god bless tesco and evertying it stands for. Oh yeah, Lack of choice, high streets for deserts, producers pushed to the very limit to sell for what the retailer wants to buy, massively high proportion of peoples necessary spend in one shop, poor customer service (if any) smaller specialist retailers crushed out, lost social structure in towns and villages etc etc etc all because we DEMAND cheap food and goods without thinking of the consequences. We are greedy and our greed affects a lot of other people both in our own society where friends and neighbours cannot make a living and in other countries (which produce our food and goods and services) where many of those people are abused. Ask yourself - How can a DVD player cost £15, a Kettle £5 etc. It's because somewhere else some body else bears the true cost in poor labour rights, low salaries, pollution, dangerous working practises, poor healthcare, corruption and a whole host of other invisible problems we choose not to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Tesco isn't losing market share. Infact like for like sales growth is up and that is stripping out all new assets. Tesco Express' are great (I would say that as I as I am a store manager for them). The reason that Tesco are a success and others fail is they do not rest on laurels. They always listen to customers and give them what they want. They are at the forefront of retail innovation they lead then others follow. Simple fact is customers vote with there feet if independents hadn't fleeced people for years and gave the same service and product offer then perhaps people would shop with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 jello extendor. i want to hive you my oersonal opinion of tescos. they have great, helpyl and friend staff. if there is a porblem therey will try and sort it out there and then. you talk about invisiable proble,sn and about exploation. well some of the workers in teco might koke that they are being exploited themsoelf ves.. they tesco lot are a great bunch, and full of charther, and i love to shope there, and i am not a particualr shopping gerspn. i would not even say that capitalism is behing explotation of peoples either, it maybe just be a by product of human naturem, and only as we evolbe as a himan race over time, can things start to get better, a tesco has open up in our hgetto recently, and it is a real oasis, bringing light into an otherise dark neiborhood. i geel prod again to live where i do, and am glad to see teso set up shop here. long live tesvo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creative Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 jello extendor. i want to hive you my oersonal opinion of tescos. they have great, helpyl and friend staff. if there is a porblem therey will try and sort it out there and then. you talk about invisiable proble,sn and about exploation. well some of the workers in teco might koke that they are being exploited themsoelf ves.. they tesco lot are a great bunch, and full of charther, and i love to shope there, and i am not a particualr shopping gerspn. i would not even say that capitalism is behing explotation of peoples either, it maybe just be a by product of human naturem, and only as we evolbe as a himan race over time, can things start to get better, a tesco has open up in our hgetto recently, and it is a real oasis, bringing light into an otherise dark neiborhood. i geel prod again to live where i do, and am glad to see teso set up shop here. long live tesvo. hmm has someone been drinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Tesco isn't losing market share. Infact like for like sales growth is up and that is stripping out all new assets. Tesco Express' are great (I would say that as I as I am a store manager for them). The reason that Tesco are a success and others fail is they do not rest on laurels. They always listen to customers and give them what they want. They are at the forefront of retail innovation they lead then others follow. Simple fact is customers vote with there feet if independents hadn't fleeced people for years and gave the same service and product offer then perhaps people would shop with them. Depends where you read it I suppose Ian! Can you answer this, is it true that Tesco force their suppliers to fund the 241 offers and the price cuts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Yes, but our local Tesco express is a hundred times better than the corner shop it replaced. Better choice, better prices, more stock. Fundamentally they run a better business. Maybe where you live, but it is not true of everywhere!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockys96 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 yeh, and u now get tesco home-plus which doesnt sell any food. its like a cheap hmv, homebase, commet rolled into 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 khvjpkeunbakjyv Couldn't have said it better myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Actually just came back from a shopping trip, where I intended to visit my much beloved Tesco. Ok, so having rolled up to the Tesco slip road in my supe (looking mean and sexy - yet unwashed as usual) I was disgusted to see a massive queue going in, so I thought, "Flap this", I'm going to the local Pakistani cornershop (it was sri-lankan, to be precise, but who cares), and I went in after having parked my supra in my road, bought what I wanted and left. What struck me there was the level of service, it was so friendly that I imagine that they would have stopped short at nothing to please me. Then again, I could have been on a natural high, since getting the better of this influzena thing, has really given me a new lease of life. Will be a while till my next 5k run though, still baby steps... So when we gain something, we loose something else, we gain the multi-orgasmic temple of Mammom, and loose the quaint quickie with bhaji aftertaste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Can I ask, Carl, what planet do you come from, because virtually everything you say must be extraterrestrial, as it means gobbligook to me?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Well, on my drive through Preston to Chorley, all the supermarkets were queueing well out of the car parks and down the road, but Chorley town centre was no busier than any other day. A girl I was talking to in town said she went to Tesco's at 7am on her way to work and it was heaving with people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Hello Andrew. Well briefly, I was talking about tesco again. I said that there was a big queue of traffic outside so I couldn't be bothered to go in, so I went to my local cornershop, where I thought the service was impressive. Then I reflected that when we gain something like a big superstore, we loose something also, like the small convenience store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Hello Andrew. Well briefly, I was talking about tesco again. I said that there was a big queue of traffic outside so I couldn't be bothered to go in, so I went to my local cornershop, where I thought the service was impressive. Then I reflected that when we gain something like a big superstore, we loose something also, like the small convenience store. Hello Carl I am only messing about, but you must admit some of the stuff you type does look a bit confusing to me. Thanks for the translation though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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