JustGav Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Out of interest... Was talking to my dad in detail about this today, how many people are aware of what the REAL consequences are of this global recession. From what I've seen majority of the people in the street are pulling the ostrich syndrome, ie thinking it applies to others, and are out on the high street shopping like there is no worries. I've spoken to people recently who don't believe Ford/GM/another big company going bang will severely affect them at home. I personally think the real recession is going to kick in around June 2009, and then have a 2nd hit once the handouts run out and there is REALLY no funds to bail people out, that is when it will hit man on the street. Anybody else think the same or have a different opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 A lot worse to come i think, get rid of whatever debt while you can i reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 A lot worse to come i think, get rid of whatever debt while you can i reckon. That is exactly it... we here have completely eliminate credit cards and things like that as well as getting rid of the extras that are simply splurges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 What is the thinking behind getting rid of debt? In case the companies holding the debts take drastic action to reclaim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I just won't put up my prices as I was planning to in the coming spring and hope to retain most of my customers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 What is the thinking behind getting rid of debt? In case the companies holding the debts take drastic action to reclaim? For when your assets are worth nothing and you have lost your job and cant pay the debt off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 For when your assets are worth nothing and you have lost your job and cant pay the debt off. Wouldnt anyone in debt just declare bankruptcy? Or are we looking at the more sensible among us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Wouldnt anyone in debt just declare bankruptcy? Or are we looking at the more sensible among us? You want to be bankrupt? the way i look at it is its a difficult situation, the government want us to keep spending to keep the economy going but the fact is people aint spending so i cant see it recovering for some time, if things do get really bad then whatever debt you can get rid off now while things aint to bad all the better imo, save every penny you can till this blows over. Ive got a few friends that live week to week and rely on every pay packet but they still have the latest cars and gadgets all on finance, these are the sort of people that are going to be in real trouble if/when things get bad and i think there is a lot of people out there like that. All of the above dont effect me though as i have no debt:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 You want to be bankrupt? No All of the above dont effect me though as i have no debt:p Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I don't think people are ignoring things at all. If anything people are being careful and even not buying Christmas presents for each other. Although the high street will probably feel a temporary boost because of Christmas season, sales are down by about by 6.5% on last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Hmm, I will sit it out, I have a house i rent out part from that im now clear. Not alot you can do if you owe morage amounts of money. However cutting down or out the credit card bills is wise advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest damelza Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I'm getting gradually more freaked out and I've gone crawling back onto ebay (on the flog) just in case..... I'm feeling safe job wise being a teacher but the debt business....hmmmmm. Every spare penny is going on paying off stuff asap. The streets were busy in Ealing today but the shops empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 All of the above dont effect me though as i have no debt:p lol, you're lucky mate. Seems like you've got everything sorted just in time.... family, house, job. Wish I could pay off the mortgage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I don't think people (in general) are ignoring it but your advice is good, credit crunch or not , credit cards should be paid off anyway if at all poss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Originally Posted by JamieP i have no debt Ditto No mortgage, Rob? (Can't remember if you live with your folks still) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 No mortgage, Rob? (Can't remember if you live with your folks still) No Jake, no mortgage. Cant decide if i should take the plunge or not. On one hand the market is good for a first time buyer, on the other, is it about to slide over the edge. I guess a fair few folks on here have done well for themselves and paid the mortgage off already, so its a no worries situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 No Jake, no mortgage. Cant decide if i should take the plunge or not. On one hand the market is good for a first time buyer, on the other, is it about to slide over the edge. Yeah, tough call. I wouldn't know what to do either. I guess a fair few folks on here have done well for themselves and paid the mortgage off already Not me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burble Burble Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Hmm. Get a crediit card, borrow to the max, pay it off your mortgage and then transfer the debt to a second card at 0%. Cost 3% transfer. pay off the debt at the rate the mortgage payment would be. = Mortgage at 3%. .....wish i'd thought of that a few year ago when the cards were 0% and no transfer cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Out of interest... Was talking to my dad in detail about this today, how many people are aware of what the REAL consequences are of this global recession. From what I've seen majority of the people in the street are pulling the ostrich syndrome, ie thinking it applies to others, and are out on the high street shopping like there is no worries. I've spoken to people recently who don't believe Ford/GM/another big company going bang will severely affect them at home. I personally think the real recession is going to kick in around June 2009, and then have a 2nd hit once the handouts run out and there is REALLY no funds to bail people out, that is when it will hit man on the street. Anybody else think the same or have a different opinion? Same as you, especially on this forum it feels like there's about six of us who grasp the gravity of this situation. As for the Detroit 3 it feels even worse! Commentators have suggested that even if the smallest (Chrysler) goes under (properly, not just Chaper11) it will rival the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy. Detroit and it's metro area has a population of 4.5m, the biggest employers are the big three with about 300,000 employees either employed by them or suppliers (globally if they go under it will directly affect 3 million people). Michigan will resemble Louisiana after Katrina in 2005 (except it won't be underwater) I can't understand how people think they won't be affected unless they work for a debt recovery agency or an undertakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 You will be ok if you are in the police force because if it does go to sh1t crime will go up massively:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burble Burble Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 As an idea of the effects, I work at a 500 million turnover company, they have orders till end feb and that's it at the moment, they are laying off 15% globally and are considering 3 day week, 4 day week or timed close down, the ripples from any of that through the suppliers, the shops where we spend the money, the reduction in transport etc. will be immense. But, it's always the same, america coughs, we catch a cold, I'll be interested to see what happens at the start of the new year, HSBC have said they will lend up to 20% more from then. If the other banks do the same will that get people moving house again? Or are people going to batten down the hatches and try and pay off their debts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Same as you, especially on this forum it feels like there's about six of us who grasp the gravity of this situation. Make that 6 and a half. Im trying my best! One thing i keep thinking though, we survived the last recession, what if anything will make this one worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magictorch Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 You will be ok if you are in the police force because if it does go to sh1t crime will go up massively:D Loads of overtime:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazB Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Loads of overtime:d But who's going to pay you Could end up like some overseas police forces were it's done for the love of it not what it pays One thought is you may as well owe 100k as 10k with no income, as said to me by one of my employees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRALOOPY Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 And yet we are still letting anyone and everyone into the country with not a penny in their pocket. I suppose it will not matter when there is no money left.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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