Suprash Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 just to add, there will be a drift circuit at Supra Pod 09. So you can give it a whirl and see what all the fuss is about. I'll be bringing my 180sx then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Huh? Don't agree with that. I meant that in general we seem to be constantly behind other countries, and we still are in some respects.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 A car that is properly set up to drift is surprisingly easy to drift actually. The skill level of the D1 drifters comes when they do it at such speed and in close proximity to other cars. One of my local friends bought a R34 four years ago. He got it cheap because it was a drift car with all suspension setup and correct geometry etc. It had major camber on the front wheels and some interesting toe in settings on the rear. He let me drive it before he had it all converted back to normal road settings and I have to say it was soooooo very easy to get the thing into a low speed drift. And with the correct settings once it is in a state of drift then very little effort is required to keep it there. The geo settings meant that the car seemed to be more stable once the back end was sliding than it was in a normal straight road driving. But this is not to take away any of the skill level to be able to commit to the high speed drifts that the D1 guys do. Just wanted to point out that drifting in your road car would be much more difficult to achieve the type of drifts found at the D1. Suspension and geometry are the biggest and cheapest gains within drift cars, its equal to a Supra having a double de-cat But yeah thats how my Nissan is set up, mad camber on the front so the fronts are in the arches at the top and stuck right out at the bottom, and the rear tyres are near straight, it helps the rear break away easier while the fronts are still digging in for grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 And the 2008 award for replying to a post without really reading what it was saying first goes to.... YOU You obviously didnt read my first post because this wasnt a thread about quoting someone elses in put (when they are actually commented on the same subject) when you yourself havent had any input in this thread apart from a cow and now quoting someone else..... My mum used to always something and I think you should take note, "if you havent got anything good to say, then dont say......" yep you guessed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Its good to read peoples views of drifting most of them are valid points which people in the drift comunity accept too, but just disregard as who cares when your having that much fun! As for when it looks lame you should have gone too drift days/ comps back in 2003 . . and too be fair i was there then and and it doesnt look too diferent now apart from the pro cars which have moved on a lot but so has the buget and all the best uk drivers then practicing for now. A lot have sacrificed everything to continue and progress I used to enter competitions like euro drift, d1 (when run by option) etc and it used to piss me off that the judging . . well was judging, if you had a banged out car then . . . well you couldnt get that far but fair enough when i read how it looks to non participents its true they need to encourage people to make it look better so it would grow I remember when this one guy from D1 corp japan came to a drift day and told everyone to get their act together and make their cars look good . . . that didnt go down too well (and led to the split between D1 japan and the uk organisers hence the name change to BDC/EDC the cost can spiral quickly . . especially if you have a competative streak in you but the base costs too start are SOOOO cheap It may look and actually be chav but drifting is chav in japan too . . its a people participant sport . . a bit like banger racing in the uk just get a RWD car and practice . . I have a mk111 supra now it cost me £350 (although i have my own tyre machine too which helps:sly:) Im no beginer im happy drifing ANY car now but iv realised the fun for me is just to have a dedicated drift car . . power looks whatever doesnt matter any more hence the MK3 its just personal to be able drive in that style on that limit with whatever tool you have . . I also think its a lot safer when applied on the street than trying to go as fast as possible However I think Suprash' point of getting arround in a DB9R (or whichever race car we ar taking about) IS vaild For those who think they can even lap a small roundabout in a chavy way as a cheap Mc donalds trick. . I ask you to show us all and fail miserably . . but i think we could all manage a parade lap at silverstone in the Aston So too sum up a not very well though out rant IMO 1.Beginner drifiting actully is chav and looks it too. . But the smile on your face when you give it a try you will remember for ever . . .so you may look down on it but who has the last laugh? 2.More skill is required to master the basic techniques than quick grip driving, however top level drifting and racing are more closely comparable (ANY driver can benifit hugely by practising drifting even for 15mins) 3.It IS cheap and accesiible and hugly fun supras LOVE it dont need ANY mods at all to give it a go in the wet . . . you want a laugh go twos on a MK3 stripped out with welded diff and cut springs its a wepon (demonstrator availible:d)> £400 If this club wanted to have some sort of drift try out at an event i would be happy to help in whatever way i could By any chance was you at Norfolk Arena last sat in your MKIII ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Dear Suprash, When it comes to drifting I can take it or leave it, it has an initial "wow" factor but I can't see myself ever following it as a sport, I really wouldn't care if John in the 200SX scores more points than Alan in the Skoda Octavia but I can appreciate that some people might, that's cool. However when it comes to the multiquote button () that's something I am quite passionate about, it really does excite me. So functional, so nice to click and it helps keep things tidy to boot. Heck, it's a joy. So in summary this is the multiquote button >> - it's more fun that drifting, try it sometime. HTH. x x x x Yes I'm blonde and no I'm not wearing a top, look at me lol! lol! etc PS: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I went to a drifting even at Rockingham a few years ago. There were a couple of Japaneese guys from D1 there. The control they had over their cars was amazing. Some drifts done while sitting on the window opening while the drivers door was open. The synchronized drifting was incredible. The UK drifters were less entertaining. I don't see it as a sport but it is certainly entertaining. I doubt I'll go to another event as more of the same is not an attraction for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 YOU You obviously didnt read my first post because this wasnt a thread about quoting someone elses in put (when they are actually commented on the same subject) when you yourself havent had any input in this thread apart from a cow and now quoting someone else..... My mum used to always something and I think you should take note, "if you havent got anything good to say, then dont say......" yep you guessed it Does that reply have any relevance whatsoever? Moron. And I'd say this is saying something good about you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Dear Suprash, When it comes to drifting I can take it or leave it, it has an initial "wow" factor but I can't see myself ever following it as a sport, I really wouldn't care if John in the 200SX scores more points than Alan in the Skoda Octavia but I can appreciate that some people might, that's cool. However when it comes to the multiquote button (http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif) that's something I am quite passionate about, it really does excite me. So functional, so nice to click and it helps keep things tidy to boot. Heck, it's a joy. So in summary this is the multiquote button >> http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif - it's more fun that drifting, try it sometime. HTH. x x x x Yes I'm blonde and no I'm not wearing a top, look at me lol! lol! etc PS: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif I was wondering when you would be along Michael lol But for once, thanks for the constructive tip, you beat Thorin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Does that reply have any relevance whatsoever? Moron. And I'd say this is saying something good about you. As its my thread I can do what I like thanks......you had no constructive input into this thread, except a cow - well done and then trying to nit pick at Phills post....... And yes it has relevance, stop getting off topic and discuss what this thread was started to discuss, not what someones intensions was when they posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 ...you beat Thorin Hey Thorin, in your face! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 you had no constructive input into this thread, except a cow You were the one who brought it up, the phrase you were looking for is moot point. Hey Thorin, in your face! Ah, but check out my mastery of teh multi-quote function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Hey Thorin, in your face! Dare I ask why you are in such a humourous mood Michael You were the one who brought it up, the phrase you were looking for is moot point. Ah, but check out my mastery of teh multi-quote function. And Michael, Nike, Nikey (spelt phoneticly if thats right lol), Moo, Moot, its all the same lol And I thought it was Moo, because its like a cows opinion, it dont have one, or thats what I was told once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little num Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Well i only bought my uk 6sp for trackdays and drifting lessons so i can learn to drive and get myself out of sticky situations, i think who ever owns a rear wheel drive car if it be a supra or a 318 BMW they should have ago at doing it as it might save your life 1 day if you have some idea of how to actually drive a rwd car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Not one part of this argument makes me want to go to a drift day I might try it for a laugh, but it holds no interest for me as a 'sport' (which it still isnt one of) Blinkered or not i couldnt give a toss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatsupraTT Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Well i thought drifting was just fun going sideways i just dont understand how they choose a winner when there is 2 cars on the track i thought the whole point in racing was which car goes round the track quicker, i as i said i thought drifting was 1 car on a track going sideway id of thought that was more fun but then i dont have a clue lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD DAN Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 i think of drifitng as like the red arrows, very very skillfull but once you have seen it done a few times it all starts to look the same so i wouldnt consider drifting a sport more of a way of showing off a skillful art just my 2p's worth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 i think drifting is great and worthy as a show off sport like crufts or ballet, becuase is more about beauty and control rather than the fastest and the slowest. i have great respect and admiration for people like julian smith (hks drift racer). ok there is no one like him, but just people who can induce drift in almost any car fwd rwd or awd, what ever the bhp and axle, is absolutely amazing. I would never drift my supe becuase of the lack of skill on my part and fear of damaging my motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Not one part of this argument makes me want to go to a drift day I might try it for a laugh, but it holds no interest for me as a 'sport' (which it still isnt one of) Blinkered or not i couldnt give a toss Couldnt give a toss lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Isnt drifting viewed at around a 50 degree angle? Or is it more 60? Or am i missing the point completely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little num Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Its a good job we dont all do the same things and have the same interest's as the world would be a very boring place, we all have out own idea's of fun (i like to dress up in my wife's knickers) and others dont. I hate washing my sup and it dont bother me if i stick it in the gazebo for month and dont see it, where as others love to wash them and look at them out the window every 5 minutes to admire it, point is we dont all have to like what other do or say thats what makes the world go round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 If you don't wash your supe does it mean you have bad personal hygiene generally, I hardly ever wash my supe, in fact I like the fact that it isnt washed. Fair play with the knickers thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy W Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 It's a load of old boll0x really. Fair play to those who are into it and can afford to take it up as a 'sport' though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 Isnt drifting viewed at around a 50 degree angle? Or is it more 60? http://www.mathsteacher.com.au/year7/ch08_angles/02_draw/Image10504.gif Or am i missing the point completely? Ha, very good..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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