dcarrter21 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 i love it/ trying to do it. no doubt when i go tt in january i will go thru even more tires but i do it because i enjoy it!looking at the road ahead thru your side window is fun for me!maybe not everyones cup of tea but thats whats having these cars are for isnt it?to enjoy ureself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 i love it/ trying to do it. no doubt when i go tt in january i will go thru even more tires but i do it because i enjoy it!looking at the road ahead thru your side window is fun for me!maybe not everyones cup of tea but thats whats having these cars are for isnt it?to enjoy ureself Or looking back through the passenger window aJQWbsOgsMg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I think its a fun sport, but sadly with the judging it reminds me of ice skating and ball room dancing where reputation holds as much sway as the performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Its not a sport of any kind, more a passtime. The cars are pretty, and the actual events look like fun, but at least in the UK, there is no REAL skill to speak of. Each year at the main pod days they are given a small square, and you see the same old battered cars scream around. Bit of a joke to be fair! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD-Rob Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 how to veiw drifting through the side window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatsupraTT Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I would like to get into drifting but have to buy a skyline or 200sx etc its just the cost in having the suspension set up just for drifting and not to mention the cost in tyres and then having to find somewhere to practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Its not a sport of any kind, more a passtime. The cars are pretty, and the actual events look like fun, but at least in the UK, there is no REAL skill to speak of. Each year at the main pod days they are given a small square, and you see the same old battered cars scream around. Bit of a joke to be fair! Have you ever tried it?, i can`t believe you sit there and type"there is no real skill", i consider myself to be a pretty good driver and having attended 1 of these "chav" days at pod recently i couldn`t believe how DIFFICULT it is to get a proper drift going and hold it, its like saying theirs no skill in rally driving, i take my hat off to these drift guys and wish i had more time and ££ to practice. I still don`t think drifting will ever catch on as a spectators sport though, its not as competative as say btcc or gt etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H7ERO Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Its good to read peoples views of drifting most of them are valid points which people in the drift comunity accept too, but just disregard as who cares when your having that much fun! As for when it looks lame you should have gone too drift days/ comps back in 2003 . . and too be fair i was there then and and it doesnt look too diferent now apart from the pro cars which have moved on a lot but so has the buget and all the best uk drivers then practicing for now. A lot have sacrificed everything to continue and progress I used to enter competitions like euro drift, d1 (when run by option) etc and it used to piss me off that the judging . . well was judging, if you had a banged out car then . . . well you couldnt get that far but fair enough when i read how it looks to non participents its true they need to encourage people to make it look better so it would grow I remember when this one guy from D1 corp japan came to a drift day and told everyone to get their act together and make their cars look good . . . that didnt go down too well (and led to the split between D1 japan and the uk organisers hence the name change to BDC/EDC the cost can spiral quickly . . especially if you have a competative streak in you but the base costs too start are SOOOO cheap It may look and actually be chav but drifting is chav in japan too . . its a people participant sport . . a bit like banger racing in the uk just get a RWD car and practice . . I have a mk111 supra now it cost me £350 (although i have my own tyre machine too which helps:sly:) Im no beginer im happy drifing ANY car now but iv realised the fun for me is just to have a dedicated drift car . . power looks whatever doesnt matter any more hence the MK3 its just personal to be able drive in that style on that limit with whatever tool you have . . I also think its a lot safer when applied on the street than trying to go as fast as possible However I think Suprash' point of getting arround in a DB9R (or whichever race car we ar taking about) IS vaild For those who think they can even lap a small roundabout in a chavy way as a cheap Mc donalds trick. . I ask you to show us all and fail miserably . . but i think we could all manage a parade lap at silverstone in the Aston So too sum up a not very well though out rant IMO 1.Beginner drifiting actully is chav and looks it too. . But the smile on your face when you give it a try you will remember for ever . . .so you may look down on it but who has the last laugh? 2.More skill is required to master the basic techniques than quick grip driving, however top level drifting and racing are more closely comparable (ANY driver can benifit hugely by practising drifting even for 15mins) 3.It IS cheap and accesiible and hugly fun supras LOVE it dont need ANY mods at all to give it a go in the wet . . . you want a laugh go twos on a MK3 stripped out with welded diff and cut springs its a wepon (demonstrator availible:d)> £400 If this club wanted to have some sort of drift try out at an event i would be happy to help in whatever way i could Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Again the driving like Daisy in the DBR9 completely misses the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 just to add, there will be a drift circuit at Supra Pod 09. So you can give it a whirl and see what all the fuss is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcarrter21 Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 i used to have a 200sx.it was very easy to get a drift going in it but i just got bored of the looks.then it started showing sighns of bottom end failure so i sold it.the supra had the reliability and the looks and could go sideways.best of everything! i will def be at supra pod then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Have you ever tried it?, i can`t believe you sit there and type"there is no real skill", i consider myself to be a pretty good driver and having attended 1 of these "chav" days at pod recently i couldn`t believe how DIFFICULT it is to get a proper drift going and hold it, its like saying theirs no skill in rally driving, i take my hat off to these drift guys and wish i had more time and ££ to practice. I still don`t think drifting will ever catch on as a spectators sport though, its not as competative as say btcc or gt etc. Do i need to try it? None of the guys at pod can do it properly either. Hence my point, there is no skill in any of the UK 'drifters' at these pod events. Not been to the UKD1 events so cant comment, but Tokyo they aint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I can see why the guys that do drifting probably like it; it looks like a laugh to do it. It's just not a sport though. To me it's a novelty, the first time you see it you think 'Blimey!' but after a minute or two you're bored of it. I've never even watched a whole three min video of drifting on YouTube, it just doesn't hold my attention. As JB already said, to me it's comparable to figure skating; it looks fairly difficult but ultimately pointless and even at the end you don't know who won until the judges tell you. It just seems like a poor substitute for racing. Like I said though, I totally understand why the participants like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 This is because we are about 5+ years behind the Japs, the same as we cant build single powered Supras the same as the US Huh? Don't agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Do i need to try it? None of the guys at pod can do it properly either. Hence my point, there is no skill in any of the UK 'drifters' at these pod events. Not been to the UKD1 events so cant comment, but Tokyo they aint. Anyone thats into driving needs to try it, infact for so little money everyone should have a go at drifting just to get the feel of the car going sideways so when you overcook it on the road you have half an idea of what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 A car that is properly set up to drift is surprisingly easy to drift actually. The skill level of the D1 drifters comes when they do it at such speed and in close proximity to other cars. One of my local friends bought a R34 four years ago. He got it cheap because it was a drift car with all suspension setup and correct geometry etc. It had major camber on the front wheels and some interesting toe in settings on the rear. He let me drive it before he had it all converted back to normal road settings and I have to say it was soooooo very easy to get the thing into a low speed drift. And with the correct settings once it is in a state of drift then very little effort is required to keep it there. The geo settings meant that the car seemed to be more stable once the back end was sliding than it was in a normal straight road driving. But this is not to take away any of the skill level to be able to commit to the high speed drifts that the D1 guys do. Just wanted to point out that drifting in your road car would be much more difficult to achieve the type of drifts found at the D1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMorrison Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Its not a sport of any kind, more a passtime. The cars are pretty, and the actual events look like fun, but at least in the UK, there is no REAL skill to speak of. Each year at the main pod days they are given a small square, and you see the same old battered cars scream around. Bit of a joke to be fair! Do i need to try it? None of the guys at pod can do it properly either. Hence my point, there is no skill in any of the UK 'drifters' at these pod events. Not been to the UKD1 events so cant comment, but Tokyo they aint. That's really as blinkered as any of the armchair experts spouting 'facts' about drifting, despite never having seen an event. Pod is beginners to intermediate drifting. Occasionally you we see a more experienced drifter there, but the vast majority are n00bies. Pod is one of the best things to happen to drifting in the UK, as it allows regular practice. It is however not a fair representation of the top level of drifting at all. The fact you say you've never been to a UKD1 event about sums it up. UKD1 hasn't run for 4 years. It was replaced by the D1GB (D1 Great Britain) then by the EDC (European Drift Championship). If you are gauging your opinions on the level of drifting seen in the UK 4 years ago, then you really must come and open your eyes at a 2009 event. We are no longer the learners, we run at the same level as the Japanese. FYI, Japans number one drifters Team Orange competed in this years EDC. They were very impressed with the level we are at now.. You may be too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 That's really as blinkered as any of the armchair experts spouting 'facts' about drifting, despite never having seen an event. Pod is beginners to intermediate drifting. Occasionally you we see a more experienced drifter there, but the vast majority are n00bies. Pod is one of the best things to happen to drifting in the UK, as it allows regular practice. It is however not a fair representation of the top level of drifting at all. The fact you say you've never been to a UKD1 event about sums it up. UKD1 hasn't run for 4 years. It was replaced by the D1GB (D1 Great Britain) then by the EDC (European Drift Championship). If you are gauging your opinions on the level of drifting seen in the UK 4 years ago, then you really must come and open your eyes at a 2009 event. We are no longer the learners, we run at the same level as the Japanese. FYI, Japans number one drifters Team Orange competed in this years EDC. They were very impressed with the level we are at now.. You may be too And the 2008 award for replying to a post without really reading what it was saying first goes to.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMorrison Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 And the 2008 award for replying to a post without really reading what it was saying first goes to.... How so? I'm replying specifically to this comment. The cars are pretty, and the actual events look like fun, but at least in the UK, there is no REAL skill to speak of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 How so? I'm replying specifically to this comment. ...but then follows it up by saying he's never been to the professional events so can't comment on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMorrison Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Irrelevant. It was an ill informed blanket statement on the standards of drifting as a whole in the UK.. My reply is relevant.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Irrelevant. It was an ill informed blanket statement on the standards of drifting as a whole in the UK.. My reply is relevant.. It was a blanket statement covering the events at Pod that he'd actually seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMorrison Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 That's not the way it read and you know it. This is an extremely pointless nit picking argument by the way, so I'll leave you to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Its not a sport of any kind, more a passtime. The cars are pretty, and the actual events look like fun, but at least in the UK, there is no REAL skill to speak of. Each year at the main pod days they are given a small square, and you see the same old battered cars scream around. Bit of a joke to be fair! Im sorry Rob but you are wrong, as already said Pod is where you go when you get your first car and need somewhere to practice, learn and hone your skills, and thats why they are in battered old cars, someone who is just starting out aint gonna shell out 15k on an ex D1 car to start off in are they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Again the driving like Daisy in the DBR9 completely misses the point. Its still you thats missing the point, you get a race prepped car, I'll bring my drift car and we'll swap and see who gets further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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