Suprash Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Had this thread posted to me, was an interesting read, especially some of the views, so wondered how you guys view drifting as a sport, motorsport, or extreme sport. I can see what they are saying the way its judged and not who crosses the line first, and even some comments but points awarded to better looking cars then others, but drifting isnt about crossing the line first or the quickest its about the display, the performance, its more of a spectactor sport and putting on show, watching a car gracefully slide around like they and especially if they are twinning, watching one car follow another exactly. And its certainly something you have to get a feel for to master, and even then you have to start slow and work your way up through your speeds, even now Im confident in 2nd, but 3rd is still a learning curve for me. So whats your guys views on it....? http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=42&t=618425&i=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Personally, I'm completely underwhelmed by drifting as a motorsport or spectator activity. The fact that it's judged (possibly including the appearance of the car!?!?!) makes it pretty pointless as a sport for me. I'm not denying it's technically very skillful, but I can't derive any pleasure in watching more than a few minutes of such. However actually doing it yourself is fantastic fun. So whilst I would never even consider being involved in a drift "scene", I would quite happily take my car out to an airfield once in a while for a bit of fun throwing it around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 pikey sport It really doesnt bother me what some guy behind his pc thinks,as long as I enjoy it and enjoy watching it thats all that matters People get far too agitated by people on "the forumz" its nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Ive not got time to read the article Ash but my view is that drifting is a fantastic motorsport. There is so much skill involved which in a sence makes it more interesting then who will cross the line 1st (not that there isn't skill in racing ofcourse). Being over a short run the whole thing is entertaining and the drivers feel a responsability to entertain also. The comentaitor in the EDC (annoying as he is) does get the crowd involved also and so do the drivers. All in all a fantastic spectator sport, which aint half bad to have a go at either:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 Im really not worried about some guys opinion nehind his PC lol I just realised that I obvioulsy love the sport/motorsport, but then Im biased as Im trying to get better at it, but I wondered what others see it as...... Also is it a sport ? Extreme sport ? or motorsport ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 Personally, I'm completely underwhelmed by drifting as a motorsport or spectator activity. The fact that it's judged (possibly including the appearance of the car!?!?!) makes it pretty pointless as a sport for me. I'm not denying it's technically very skillful, but I can't derive any pleasure in watching more than a few minutes of such. However actually doing it yourself is fantastic fun. So whilst I would never even consider being involved in a drift "scene", I would quite happily take my car out to an airfield once in a while for a bit of fun throwing it around. But thats how I see the sport, from start to finish its about pleasing the crowd, to put on a show, so in my eyes that includes how the car looks, is it wrong that people get points for the looks of their car, I wouldnt say its wrong, but I would like to think only a very small percentage of the points go towards this aspect, its part of the whole package I would say as a performance...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I didn't realise the look of the car came into it TBH. I always thought that the 10 marks awarded between the two cars is for line, angle, speed held during drift etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsween Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I have to admit it isnt much of a sport in my eyes. However, thats not to say i dont enjoy doing it (private road ). i'd also pay to go see this. As far as who wins etc doesnt interest me i just have to aplaud the skill involved. So yes, i think its brilliant but its not a sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Drifting requires a lot of skill and most times to drift in close proximity to other cars that are also drifting... well for me the skill level is impressive. But as a sport it totally does nothing for me. I admire the skill level of the drivers but apart from that the cars usually look like bangers with front bumper hanging off, as mentioned it is not about finishing first over the line, and just about 'the show'.... so for me I can watch one or two drift duels and then my interest is lost. Personal drifting whether it be on track or on a 'private road' is good fun.... it really improves your car control. And also gives you a instinctive reaction knowledge if something were to happen under normal driving conditions on normal road conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steady_dave Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I love it, think it's a great sport, looks awesome to watch and feels awesome to do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Personally, I'm completely underwhelmed by drifting as a motorsport or spectator activity. The fact that it's judged (possibly including the appearance of the car!?!?!) makes it pretty pointless as a sport for me. I'm not denying it's technically very skillful, but I can't derive any pleasure in watching more than a few minutes of such. However actually doing it yourself is fantastic fun. So whilst I would never even consider being involved in a drift "scene", I would quite happily take my car out to an airfield once in a while for a bit of fun throwing it around. Except the doing it part, as I haven't really had a go yet, but with all this cold weather I seem to be doing a little bit everytime I'm out and about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloodyturbo Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I dont think its much of a sport as such, more of a bit of entertainment, would much rather watch some touge. But the skill required to do it is undeniable, especially tandem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I've seen D1 at Fuji Speedway, and those are the TOP guys. They come into view side by side, totally sideways at a hell of a speed with smoke billowing out like you wouldn't believe. It was fun to watch for the first 15 minutes, but after that I wandered off for a beer and a kebab. Just the same thing, over and over.... The judging was a farce too, obviously fixed. Give me a proper race any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Yep, it's a spectacle more than a sport I would say. Motorsport doesn't really lend itself to subjectivity - we much prefer who is over the line first. I'm no expert on how Drifting is scored, but it sounds like ballroom dancing..!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 It is judged on things like entry speed, angle, line, duration of drift, if your twinning, how well you follow the lead car, how close you are, but I have been told that if your car looks a bit different or stands that, then that can help with the scoring on your behalf. Surely its a sport, it has to be, as more then one person taking part and competing makes it a sport, the same as lets say diving, thats also judged on score, but what Im wondering is it a motorsport, is it captured within motorsport in the sense of any other race, what defines motorsport ? I see it as it is, its a sport, two or more compete, you're in motors, each person is trying to be the best, its just the rules by which the winner is determined is different. I would still say drifting requires more skill to do and master then most grip driving though......I mean you could get into a race built car and could race, compentantly, it might not be great, but you could finish higher then last given a good car, but you cant just jump into say a D1 drift car and drift it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJames Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 It's a sport as much as FMX or synchronised swimming is, but I wouldn't pay to watch it as a feature sport but if it was on the card between proper races like a comedian between bands at a concert then I'd be happy to watch. However most of the cars look shit and seems to further entwine chav culture with owning a Japanese car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I agree with Gazboy. Doesn't do a lot for me TBH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I like to view it through welding goggles, but that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 It's a sport as much as FMX or synchronised swimming is, but I wouldn't pay to watch it as a feature sport but if it was on the card between proper races like a comedian between bands at a concert then I'd be happy to watch. However most of the cars look $#@! and seems to further entwine chav culture with owning a Japanese car. How can you say these cars look shit ? http://www.allcarwallpapers.com/wallpapers/previews/nissan-silvia-s15-741.jpg http://www.toyo.co.uk/uploads/pink%20drift%20car.jpg And entwine chav culture with Japanese cars, Hmmmm, I think maybe you are jumping to conclusions there. Have you ever been along to any drift events ? I have and I cant say that I have come across Chavs anymore then in any other situation. And if anything you tend to get more people watching drifting that arent car enthusiasts, I think because when watching a race, you have to be a race or car anthusiast, where as drifting you havent got to be a car lover or race lover, I have had people come watch me who normally wouldnt go to any kind of motor racing, or have any interest in cars, but because there is that show element they have been happy to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Personally, I'm completely underwhelmed by drifting as a motorsport or spectator activity. The fact that it's judged (possibly including the appearance of the car!?!?!) makes it pretty pointless as a sport for me. I'm not denying it's technically very skillful, but I can't derive any pleasure in watching more than a few minutes of such. Sums it up for me... G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I don't care enou.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I love the drifting and if i had time id like to have a go myself. I like watching the well turned out cars doing the big drifts on the big tracks, very impressive imo. I know everyone has to start somewhere but the old 1.8gl sierra drifting round a few cones at santapod dont interest me one bit and does have a chav element to it imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 How can you say these cars look $#@! ? http://www.allcarwallpapers.com/wallpapers/previews/nissan-silvia-s15-741.jpg http://www.toyo.co.uk/uploads/pink%20drift%20car.jpg http://blog.gtroc.com/dino/su10.jpg And entwine chav culture with Japanese cars, Hmmmm, I think maybe you are jumping to conclusions there. Have you ever been along to any drift events ? I have and I cant say that I have come across Chavs anymore then in any other situation. And if anything you tend to get more people watching drifting that arent car enthusiasts, I think because when watching a race, you have to be a race or car anthusiast, where as drifting you havent got to be a car lover or race lover, I have had people come watch me who normally wouldnt go to any kind of motor racing, or have any interest in cars, but because there is that show element they have been happy to The HKS 200SX looks better, but all three look like 20 different people designed the graphics and then put them on in the dark, especialy that Skyline. Notice how these look less McDonalds carpark: http://www.streetcommodores.com/images/news/16/Holden_Winton_Testing_026.jpg http://www.tuningnews.net/news/080311a/audi-a4-dtm-2008.jpg Edit- it isn't just a Drift thing, most of the time attack cars look gash too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 It's all about showing off really isn't it? Come to think of it, Jamie, I'm surprised you've not got into this in a big way? It's just like a burnout, but going around a corner at the same time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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