michael Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I thought this was a bit shocking, basically chap got his 3 year-old childs photo back from the school only to find that they had airbrushed a birthmark out, judging by some of the comments in the thread it's not an isolated thing. http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=95357 Do you think this is acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 no I think if the parents thought it was a problem then they could easily have asked the photographer to edit the photo. The photographer shouldnt even think about editing the photo in that way unless being told prior to the shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnanshah247 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 god created every individual uniquely, anything thats present is there for a reason. photo shopping the kids picture could be insulting 'we think your kids ugly so we fixed it for him' could be what the end message sounds like. i agree that they should have approached the parents before hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I can imagine the airbrushing is a nice thing for teenagers now though as anyone that happened to be spotty on the day won't have their photos ruined anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnanshah247 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I can imagine the airbrushing is a nice thing for teenagers now though as anyone that happened to be spotty on the day won't have their photos ruined anymore lol. no more spot jokes, still permission should be taken before hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 yep I'd imagine the kids would be pleading with the photographer,lol and any naughty kids get their spots made bigger, & bigger noses etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keener Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I do a lot of school photos and I'm always aware of removing moles/birthmarks by mistake. I do a lot of B&W conversions and often it's difficult to distinguish a small mole from a spot or even some food etc around the mouth of a smaller child when it's in B&W I often refer back to the colour original to try to determine what to remove but, believe it or not, it is often difficult to decide. I have a company policy though that if any parent comments that a distinguishing mark is removed by mistake we will re-print the photo correctly for free. I once removed a tiny mole from a shot of my gf and she said straight away 'but without the mole it's not me' - lesson learnt! I do spend a lot of time removing spots, runny noses, food and so on but that's just to make the photo look nice for the parents and justifiable in my book. I do not do the fake, smoothe skin airbrushing that some photographers to do portraits - that's just too fake and I hate it. I have removed cold sores, excema, scratches, bruises, black eyes and so on and have had many comments of thanks from parents for not changing their child but just smoothing out temporary skin conditions. However, in this case that photographer was absolutely wrong to remove such a birth mark (I wouldn't dream of doing so) and should be taken to task over it and a reprint demanded. If they refuse take it up with any professional body he/she's a member of as it's a big error in my view! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Isn't it the photographers photo so he can do what the hell he likes? I.e. Devil horns and a reindeer nose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Why can't people just admit they have slightly imperfect kids and move on? The guy is clearly trying to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keener Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Isn't it the photographers photo so he can do what the hell he likes? I.e. Devil horns and a reindeer nose? Indeed, the photographer does hold the copyright of the image. However, isn't there a professional and moral obligation to the client if they're trading as professional photographers and charging for their work? Why can't people just admit they have slightly imperfect kids and move on? The guy is clearly trying to help I take it you're being facetious! I don't see how making the photo NOT look like the parents child is trying to help. Sorry if I'm having a sense of humour failure here and I appreciate sarcastic humour immensely but I also want to defend my profession! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I'm with Mike on this one - if we don't take steps like this to teach people that it's not acceptable to spawn unattractive offspring then how are people supposed to learn which ones to keep and which ones to send away for adoption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Aspiration isn't a bad thing! Maybe they'll see the light and get some plastic surgery and make the world a prettier place. In all seriousness, I can't see the issue. If the photo looks better for being 'shopped then it will only flatter the people involved right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 i'm with mike on this one - if we don't take steps like this to teach people that it's not acceptable to spawn unattractive offspring then how are people supposed to learn which ones to keep and which ones to send away for adoption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 If I had any ginger children I would hope their pictures come back with freckles removed and black/brown hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 If I had any ginger children I would hope their pictures come back with freckles removed and black/brown hair That's a bit offensive to anyone ginger isn't it? Or is it OK to joke about colour differences now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 That's a bit offensive to anyone ginger isn't it? Or is it OK to joke about colour differences now Ginger people don't mind. They are one of the few races actually able to laugh at themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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