how_supra Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 A friend of mine has a prelude of which seems to suffer with warping brake syndrome, probably every 12,000miles or so Any ideas what the possible causes of this might be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Braking too hard, too much, or maybe using cheap discs? If I remember rightly, the Prelude does wear very heavily on the front brake pads. Well mine did anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Warped discs generally mean thin or worn discs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloodyturbo Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I've got a prelude and the brakes are really very good, the only problem i had with warping them was when they were due for changing (i.e. thin and worn) then they warped slightly after a good drive home from tesco's;) Never had a problem with warping other than that. my advice would be make sure the caliper is not siezed as preludes have a tendency to seize and wear the inside pad down hard, especially the rears, they're god-awful for seizing. I also used to break my pads in really aggresively (drive easy for 200miles then do 10 really hard stops from 60-5 then another couple from 80-5 then drive for 10mins to cool them off) difference was very noticeable. -edit- pad choice could also have something to do with it, redstuff pads have a rep for eating discs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRALOOPY Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 drive easy for 200miles YES!!! do 10 really hard stops from 60-5 then another couple from 80-5 NO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how_supra Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 Hi Guys I suggested siezing calipers to him and he's going to look at that! Also he tells me he uses the discs the garage supply, so I've suggested that he buy some different makes, and also change the pads too Thanks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Hi Guys I suggested siezing calipers to him and he's going to look at that! Also he tells me he uses the discs the garage supply, so I've suggested that he buy some different makes, and also change the pads too Thanks.... He should go for the proper Honda brake discs ideally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloodyturbo Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 drive easy for 200miles YES!!! do 10 really hard stops from 60-5 then another couple from 80-5 NO!!! 10 really hard stops from 60-5 YES!!!! http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_bedinstock.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRALOOPY Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 You break pads in HARD, but disks in EASY. (AIUI) Don't ever change both together, bed new pads in on the outgoing disks, then change the disks and bed them in steadily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTKIN Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 machanic here lol. If he has constant problems with it the best thing is to uprate them bigger discs an pads u can pick up big brake conversions cheap now because of the amount out there. As for the wearing the pads in first then the discs is not a good idea as this will cause heat spots new pads an new discs together is what u should do but be careful as they will wont be that good at breaking for about 200 miles an no emergency stops on purpose or hard breaking just let them bed in slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloodyturbo Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Go onto honda-tech.com and search for the legend brake conversion, it swaps the big disc brakes from a honda legend onto the prelude. Its a straight swap on a 5th gen but you need to get different discs for a 4th gen as they revert back to a 4 stud hub. Braking force is slightly lower than with stock vtec brakes as the piston area is very very slightly smaller but you get proper opposed piston calipers and a 5mm thicker disc which all but eliminates fade on the prelude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 You break pads in HARD, but disks in EASY. (AIUI) Don't ever change both together, bed new pads in on the outgoing disks, then change the disks and bed them in steadily. Is this true?? Then the last 18 years Ive worked on cars and bikes have been done wrong. I thought you ALWAYS bed brakes in gently to prevent glazing. And when you change discs and pads you do them together as a set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloodyturbo Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Is this true?? Then the last 18 years Ive worked on cars and bikes have been done wrong. I thought you ALWAYS bed brakes in gently to prevent glazing. And when you change discs and pads you do them together as a set glazing is what will happen if you dont bed in the pads properly, everyone is told to just drive easy for a couple of hundred miles, but then most people dont own sports cars. glazing happens when you try and use the brakes hard without bedding them in properly and then coming to a complete stop, letting the pad stay pressed on the same spot on the disc at very high temperature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRALOOPY Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 machanic here lol. If he has constant problems with it the best thing is to uprate them bigger discs an pads u can pick up big brake conversions cheap now because of the amount out there. As for the wearing the pads in first then the discs is not a good idea as this will cause heat spots new pads an new discs together is what u should do but be careful as they will wont be that good at breaking for about 200 miles an no emergency stops on purpose or hard breaking just let them bed in slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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