Guest Sanchi Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Just wanted to know how the supra handles modified on coilovers? does it still feel heavy or can it become quite an agile car? Thanks Sanchi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supratoy Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 It will never really feel agile like a type r etc unless you take weight away im guessing. They handle good though for a GT car, good suspension and non worn suspension parts will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraspeed Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 handles better but you just end up hating bumps/small stones if your running low profiles as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Sanchi said: Just wanted to know how the supra handles modified on coilovers? does it still feel heavy or can it become quite an agile car? Thanks Sanchi The supra comes with coilovers from the factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnanshah247 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 i personally think the supra handles lovely. for a RWD car on a dry road i think it sticks and if you can control it when it slips its a right laugh. however would say in the rain its a totally different car. it slides everywhere (i have a tt not sure about the n/a) Icey weather its best to take the wifes car........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaireRZ-S Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 i think it handles pretty well but all the bumps and stuff do wreck my head!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJI Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 the term 'handling' is very widespread The Supra can be set up to be good on a track or good on a road.... but compromised for both if you choose an inbewteen setting. This is the case with just about every car. The Supra is a GT car so it will never match an autocross mini cooper on turning ability for example......but it will be far better on stability on fast corners and under braking and power application. But as mentioned it depends on how you compromise the settings... too much comfort for the road will see less stability under performance driving. And too much comfort on the track will see the weight of the car having adverse effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 If you ever get to a supra meet try to follow Jamie P in convoy and you'll see how they grip/handle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 AJI said: the term 'handling' is very widespread The Supra can be set up to be good on a track or good on a road.... but compromised for both if you choose an inbewteen setting. This is the case with just about every car. The Supra is a GT car so it will never match an autocross mini cooper on turning ability for example......but it will be far better on stability on fast corners and under braking and power application. But as mentioned it depends on how you compromise the settings... too much comfort for the road will see less stability under performance driving. And too much comfort on the track will see the weight of the car having adverse effects. I with Arron on this, but may I add, that poor geometry is the single biggest drawback in supra handling, no amount of money spent on suspension can compensate for unsuitable settings or uneven ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Dnk said: The supra comes with coilovers from the factory First I've heard of it, unless you're confusing your terminology;) as for handling, i think its very good for a GT car, as said setup and choice of suspension and wheels/tyres will have a massive impact, get it right and its good in both dry and wet, get it wrong and you will wish you had bought something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 What shocks do people recommend for good performance below at entry level price range. Not willing to spend a grand on shocks/coilovers. I am on eibach springs and some after market shocks (can't remember the name). Some days the car feels great, others I am not so confident with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 supra_aero said: What shocks do people recommend for good performance below at entry level price range. Not willing to spend a grand on shocks/coilovers. I am on eibach springs and some after market shocks (can't remember the name). Some days the car feels great, others I am not so confident with it. I'd keep the Eibach springs and fit some Bilstein dampers, then get the geometry checked/adjusted. http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1017/cimg00037nc.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Tricky-Ricky said: First I've heard of it, unless you're confusing your terminology;) Eh? Coilover = coil over strut doesn't it? Thats what the supra has from the factory on both the front and rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 supra_aero said: What shocks do people recommend for good performance below at entry level price range. Not willing to spend a grand on shocks/coilovers. I am on eibach springs and some after market shocks (can't remember the name). Some days the car feels great, others I am not so confident with it. What dampers do you have? and how old are they? The eibach springs need serious geometry changes to make the car stable, so if thats not been done, put it on your list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Homer said: What dampers do you have? and how old are they? The eibach springs need serious geometry changes to make the car stable, so if thats not been done, put it on your list! 2-3 year old dampers - some strange jap make. Nothing like tein or TRD or I'd know about it. They are silver and i believe have red logos I think from memory if that narrows it down ?? . I'll get it down to whifbitz to have a look at them and find out. I didn't do any geometry changes so maybe thats the reason. I'll get it sorted next! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Homer said: Eh? Coilover = coil over strut doesn't it? Thats what the supra has from the factory on both the front and rear. Thats exactly my point, although correct in theory, they are not what is commonly known as "coilovers" the general terminology refers to the adjustable type, IE hight adjustable, So many cars come with the spring on shock design, and are known by various different names, IE McPherson strut etc, there are very few these days that actually have separate springs and dampers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Sanchi said: Just wanted to know how the supra handles modified on coilovers? does it still feel heavy or can it become quite an agile car? I don't think any RWD car weighing or near to 1.5 tons will ever be described as agile, need to be closer to 1 ton really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sanchi Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 aaah right cheers guys. Should have mentioned I will be putting it on a diet and seeing how light I can take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Sanchi said: aaah right cheers guys. Should have mentioned I will be putting it on a diet and seeing how light I can take it. Why?, are you going to race/track it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sanchi Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 bignum said: Why?, are you going to race/track it. Its going to be a part time/weekend track car and a daily driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Sanchi said: aaah right cheers guys. Should have mentioned I will be putting it on a diet and seeing how light I can take it. Cool how extreme you going? Totally carbon shell...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 RiceRocket said: Cool how extreme you going? Totally carbon shell...? That will be expensive:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Whilst watching overs go around Llandow it did seem as though most supras seemed to have a fair amount of body roll, and looking through some of the picks that were taken seems to confirm this. I have never really felt this in mine but I'm guessing it would be the same. I still maintain that I can chuck it about as much as my old Renault 5 turbo and 205 GTI with just as much confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJButler Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Tricky-Ricky said: First I've heard of it, unless you're confusing your terminology;) as for handling, i think its very good for a GT car, as said setup and choice of suspension and wheels/tyres will have a massive impact, get it right and its good in both dry and wet, get it wrong and you will wish you had bought something else. WTF are the springs not fitted over the shocks on yours? Or maybe you have leaf springs or even torsion bars. Who is confusing terminology here?. Enough to make me have centre point steering nightmares. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 DJButler said: WTF are the springs not fitted over the shocks on yours? Or maybe you have leaf springs or even torsion bars. Who is confusing terminology here?. Enough to make me have centre point steering nightmares. ;) Try reading my post again, and you might understand what I'm talking about;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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