paul mac Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Ryan if the whole engine/gearbox is going back a foot, excuse my automaticnus but is the gear stick going to usable a foot further back or are you going a foot further back with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 Ryan if the whole engine/gearbox is going back a foot, excuse my automaticnus but is the gear stick going to usable a foot further back or are you going a foot further back with it The passenger and I will be back with it also helping the weight bias. This is another reason the floor has come out as we are going to be moving the seats back etc. So new steering column and pedal box also Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Ryan, Does the 1ft aim come from the sump issue with the rear part of the front subframe? or, do you have some trick setup planed with an aftermarket sump and oil pump? If sticking to stock, how are you going to manage issues like changing plugs, etc if the top of the engine is tucked under the front bulkhead? Sorry for the questions, absolutely respect what you're doing, though it sometimes raises more questions than the pictures answer Sure you understand where I'm coming from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 Right what a busy day! Today Steve, stuart, wes and myself test fitted the engine into a couple of position to find the best suited mounting point. Finding the right point ment that the sump had to miss the lower subframe and the crank pulley missed the steering rack... After an hour of trial and error we finally found the point which worked best. This is before using the stock mounts This is using the new mounts Steve cracked on straight away with making up some quick engine mounts which would hold the engine. We then ensured the engine was centered and made up a temporary gearbox mount using some pipe to ensure that with the gearbox would line up with the diff and the prop was straight. An hour later we finally had the position of the engine sorted and fixed everything in place ready for some permanent mounts to be made on the engine. The gearbox we cant make a permanent mount for just yet as the rest of the floor is coming out and then a t45 frame will be made for the floor and the gearbox tunnel. While everything was solid we also cut the prop to the right length so it could be sent of to be properly welded and balanced. Its abit long now Here is everything mocked up The scuttle was also cut out to make taking the engine out easier and will also be made removable when all done for easy access when changing the plugs etc. Im away mapping now for the next week but hopefully will be back on the car next weekend. Enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 With #6 running hot in the stock position Ryan, what are your thoughts on this regarding the new position? PS I'm impressed with how far you've moved it back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazB Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 wow you have been busy today, looking good That now sits a long way back from the stock postion, it will feel like a different car when you drive it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 With #6 running hot in the stock position Ryan, what are your thoughts on this regarding the new position? PS I'm impressed with how far you've moved it back It will probably be better tbh as the bulkhead will designed so that there will be more room around the back of the engine and with the new flooring we could design it to pull the heat away with a vacuum effect. Plus when you see the new intercooler design etc you will see how alot of heat will be pulled out of the engine Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 Ryan, Does the 1ft aim come from the sump issue with the rear part of the front subframe? or, do you have some trick setup planed with an aftermarket sump and oil pump? If sticking to stock, how are you going to manage issues like changing plugs, etc if the top of the engine is tucked under the front bulkhead? Sorry for the questions, absolutely respect what you're doing, though it sometimes raises more questions than the pictures answer Sure you understand where I'm coming from Hope the pics answer your questions Daryl. With regards the sparks... removable parts of the bulkhead etc will be done to access the rear parts of the engine Right im off to bed lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 It will probably be better tbh as the bulkhead will designed so that there will be more room around the back of the engine and with the new flooring we could design it to pull the heat away with a vacuum effect. Plus when you see the new intercooler design etc you will see how alot of heat will be pulled out of the engine Ryan Looks the nuts mate, are you going V mount like me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 with the length of that prop could it not be made one piece now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Having seen this in the flesh yesterday its incredible how far back the engine has gone, insane doesnt come close to describing it. A nice V mounted rad and intercooler with large surface areas and very short intercooler pipe runs could be done, a properly ducted bonnet with top mounted electric fans would also be a good idea, aka Enzo setup EDIT: the doors and rear hatch are very very light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Having seen this in the flesh yesterday its incredible how far back the engine has gone, insane doesnt come close to describing it. A nice V mounted rad and intercooler with large surface areas and very short intercooler pipe runs could be done, a properly ducted bonnet with top mounted electric fans would also be a good idea, aka Enzo setup EDIT: the doors and rear hatch are very very light. I might be doing a V mount on my car actually, I know how good they work on the RX7. Ryan, do you fancy some carbon door skins to make it proper light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 A nice V mounted rad and intercooler with large surface areas and very short intercooler pipe runs could be done, a properly ducted bonnet with top mounted electric fans would also be a good idea, aka Enzo setup Thats the Plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 Ryan, do you fancy some carbon door skins to make it proper light? Tbh Paul i dont think they would make them that much lighter. The left over weight is in the frame now. The outside skin weighs hardly anything now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Hope the pics answer your questions Daryl. With regards the sparks... removable parts of the bulkhead etc will be done to access the rear parts of the engine It certainly does mate As always the pictures pose many questions, but I'll only ask one... is the XS power manifold for mock up only? I had the impression you were going for a cast (probably got that wrong tho). Loving the updates so far, this is one of the most interesting threads on here for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 It certainly does mate As always the pictures pose many questions, but I'll only ask one... is the XS power manifold for mock up only? I had the impression you were going for a cast (probably got that wrong tho). Loving the updates so far, this is one of the most interesting threads on here for years Was planning on going cast but unfortunatly i dont think it will allow the turbo to fit nicely in the engines current position. Steve had the XS one spare and as the head was going off to be worked on i thought i might as well just get the company to extrude honed the manifold. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Was planning on going cast but unfortunatly i dont think it will allow the turbo to fit nicely in the engines current position. Steve had the XS one spare and as the head was going off to be worked on i thought i might as well just get the company to extrude honed the manifold. Ryan Year, did wonder about that with the log, turbo would be too high up I guess and the DP not in the easiest postion to fit? At least the manifold is more or less expendable as long as it stays intact They're cheap as chips and easy enough to swap out if they do crack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted January 17, 2009 Author Share Posted January 17, 2009 Small update. Steve and I started making up the cage today by modifying a Cusco T45 cage and measuring up for all the T45 we will need to finish the cage and make all the new gearbox supports and tunnel. It took a while to get it as we wanted which involved bending, cutting and extending with sleaves and then welding into the car. We will be adding door protection bars into the cage as well as front and back strut support. All the window bars and roof bars etc will be gusseted also on the chassis to provide extra strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannoSupra Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Awsome Progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Nice, i know this car is about function but i hope you are going to respray the complete interior so it also look the part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Ryan, Does the 1ft aim come from the sump issue with the rear part of the front subframe? or, do you have some trick setup planed with an aftermarket sump and oil pump? If sticking to stock, how are you going to manage issues like changing plugs, etc if the top of the engine is tucked under the front bulkhead? Sorry for the questions, absolutely respect what you're doing, though it sometimes raises more questions than the pictures answer Sure you understand where I'm coming from Hope the pics answer your questions Daryl. With regards the sparks... removable parts of the bulkhead etc will be done to access the rear parts of the engine Right im off to bed lol Pictures show everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steady_dave Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Sorry i'm probably going to sound like a complete noob here however, with the engine that far back, are you going to extend the pipework to fit the FMIC or are you cooling it a different way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 (edited) Sorry i'm probably going to sound like a complete noob here however, with the engine that far back, are you going to extend the pipework to fit the FMIC or are you cooling it a different way? Hi Dave We will be mounting the Radiator and the intercooler in a V mount configuration in the space now in front of the engine. Like the below, although the intercooler will be slightly more vertical than the below picture http://www.knightsports.co.jp/catalog/pict/v-mout-003.jpg Ryan Edited January 18, 2009 by Ryan.G (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Whiffin Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Hi Dave We will be mounting the Radiator and the intercooler in a V mount configuration in the space now in front of the engine. Like the below, although the intercooler will be slightly more vertical than the below picture http://www.knightsports.co.jp/catalog/pict/v-mout-003.jpg Ryan They work a treat, thats like we have it in the RX7. I was going to do this on my Supra as well but its going to have to wait, got to much other stuff to do first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Nice, i know this car is about function but i hope you are going to respray the complete interior so it also look the part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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