Lacoste82 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Hallo all, i have begun a minor restoration of my Mkiv, so today i removed all panels, the carpet, seats, Ice and so on from the car. To my amazement there where some water under the backseat, and the seat itself, the foam that makes out the seat, was soaked in water! The problem is, i have no clue whatsoever, as to where this water could entered the car! I talked to a friend of mine, who suggested that it could have something to do with a sort of drainage system, as u c on some car, that leads water away, that would else have gattered at some deadend on the car! And there might be some hose that had broken of?? So my question is, is there a drainagesystem like this and/or has anyone experienced this problem before, with water under the backseath? Regards Mikkel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Unlike a lot of cars I don't think there is any water drainage channel that can cause run-off water to enter the interior. Which side of the car is it on and is it in the rear seatwell, or the footwell, also is it an aerotop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 My first thoughts too were aerotop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Is the boot rubber seal in good condition ? Do you see any water marks on the interior panels ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 also is it an aerotop? Looking in his garage, it looks like a hardtop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacoste82 Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Hey, its not a Aerotop, its a Hardtop! There are not watermarks anywhere else! Its under the rearseat itself, not under the floorcarpet, but the seat, and the foam in the seat, had absorbed alot of the water! Regarding the rubber seal, i noticed one under each of the seats, they seemed okey, but i thought about this aswell, as there where like gravel mxed with the water! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzi Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 When you pull the rear seats up there are 2 holes that it fits into. Maybe it wasn't creating a good seal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Thats my "aerotop theory" out of the equation then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 OK, so the water is under the seats I just wanted to see if you could see any watermarks anywhere else which, might indicate where the water had travelled from. Do you ever have people in your rear seats ? Did they leave a water bottle in there by mistake ?? Sorry, I have to ask. The gravel under your carpet is normally the stones that get stuck in your shoes and come out over the years....I had loads of them when I lifted my carpet. Good luck with the search! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacoste82 Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Yea, i know what u mean Sharpie :0), and there are no watermarks, that i could follow!And no waterbottles, i have had people in the back once! And regarding the stones, they are not under the carpet, but under the seat, which is higher and away from any feet, and the gravel was liek a moist mixture of water and gravel, abit like cement - So it lookes alot liek something that could have entered from the road! Regarding what u said Dazzi, with the 2 holes, they had like 2 seals, that was kinda melted on. But the seat itself was not bolted on in anyway! :0) Btw, thx alot for all the answers, plz keep them coming, it might lead to the answer! It has certainly already lead to some questions i could pursue the answer to, tomorrow! :0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 When I took all my rear panels out recently (searching for a blasted knocking sound), I noticed that the tube for the rear windscreen wash was located right under the panels/seating area. Could it be that has started leaking/split? Does it work properly when you use it? Just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Oh. Strike that then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacoste82 Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 Yea, and not a bad one m8..! Actually, the sprinklersystem doesnt work, but this was due to a faulty hose at the bottom of the sprinklerfluid container itself! But ill certainly tjeck to c if it could have something to do with this problem, could be that the system was broke more than one place! Only thing poiting away from this being the answer, is the fact that the liguid under the seat was without colour and didnt smell, therefore i concluded it had to be water, unless it had been lieing there for so long, that the alcohol in it, had evaporated! But its probably abit for fetched! :0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Hmmm....it is odd. Anyway, what's a thread without a a couple of pic's of the area in question... Some I took a few years back.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 And a pic of the other side where the rear windscreen wash tube goes. It is there somewhere, I can assure you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Not sure how long you have had the car, but has it ever had an accident, the boot seal may look fine but if the rear has had a shunt the boot may not sit perfectly on the seals, it only need the slightest of gaps to draw in a lot of water. Perhaps a rear quarter glass has been replaced incorrectly. I would dry the car out then get some one to spray water on the roof with a hose while you sit inside and watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 I don't really want to add more to the mix, but could it be possible that one of your rear wheel arches has a split in it, which could be throwing water and road grime through into the car itself? I don't know where that could enter the main part of the car, but it may be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 I have owned two cars with leaks, letting in rain water. Both were down to seals not fitting correctly. Both sources were very difficult to find. As you have the interior out you stand a good chance of finding it. Don't assume that the leak is exactly where the water becomes visible or leaves a trace when dry, capillary action can carry water unseen for quite a distance, so inlet and outlet points can be in very different places. I have used Seek and Seal, after several attempts manage to sort out a factory error that dealers could not find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacoste82 Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 Yea, ecxatly, i found the hose for the washer, but it look solid enough, theres like a little "L" formed transissionpiece in the side, but even this look to be in good shape! It a mystery! :0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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