Supragal Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 They are aren't they? Any other medication that you could take to help with side effects of the pill will probably then stop it from working anyway. It's great being a bloke. Someone was telling me about loads of side effects the other day, I had no idea. Apparently it just made their GF mental. Very odd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Someone was telling me about loads of side effects the other day, I had no idea. Apparently it just made their GF mental. Very odd! When you consider how it works it is not surprising. Hormones etc Having read the thread again, I am not sure just trying to avoid the problem fixes it.... I found it got me worse when I worried about worrying..... You need to face your problem head on and try fix it. I dont know how to fix it (as I just moved house) but if you identify the cause (scar on your neck) then you should look at addressing that cause (scar reduction surgery) etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 A few years back I was a major stress head and had all of the symptoms of not sleeping, constantly thinking/talking about work and getting enraged at the smallest thing. I literally forgot how to relax. Then I joined the gym and discovered a bit of exercise twice a week helps you sleep better, relax and think more clearly - then things don't get on top of you so much. I would strongly advise you do this before seeking any medical help. For me it was a case of having too much energy.... which is probably part and parcel of having a stressful desk bound job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Mike makes a very good point. Any form of exercise is good. Theory being that humans were designed to forage and hunt around in woods not sit in an office. If they are the ones being hunted they run, chemicals are released etc and there is no build up. By creating an artificial environment like an office, we build up stress and it never goes away. Your brain doesn't know the difference between stress built up at work and fear of survival, so by exercising you inadvertantly fix the other part. Don't think I explained that overly well but you get the point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Having read the thread again, I am not sure just trying to avoid the problem fixes it.... I found it got me worse when I worried about worrying..... You need to face your problem head on and try fix it. I dont know how to fix it (as I just moved house) but if you identify the cause Yours had a physical cause though as in your damn neighbours. Most people get them for no apparent reason, and it's when you don't know what the trigger is that it's a real problem as you don't know why and it makes the whole experience even worse. You may know when and what situation you are likely to get them in and then it starts becoming a pattern that you create. It's not really running away or avoiding the problem, what you are actually doing is teaching your brain bit by bit to not do it anymore - as you progress each attack will get shorter and shorter and less frequent until they are really rare or stop altogether. The point is that you're NOT in danger, but something in your brain has flipped into flight mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Mike makes a very good point. Any form of exercise is good. Theory being that humans were designed to forage and hunt around in woods not sit in an office. If they are the ones being hunted they run, chemicals are released etc and there is no build up. By creating an artificial environment like an office, we build up stress and it never goes away. Your brain doesn't know the difference between stress built up at work and fear of survival, so by exercising you inadvertantly fix the other part. Don't think I explained that overly well but you get the point... Yeah it's true, see this page from the link Matt posted on page 1: http://www.glasgowsteps.com/information/stress/fight.jsp Explains quite well what goes on in your body and why you get anxiety etc. (bottom half of that page mostly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I've done a lot of research on all this, can you tell? haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Mike makes a very good point. Any form of exercise is good. Theory being that humans were designed to forage and hunt around in woods not sit in an office. If they are the ones being hunted they run, chemicals are released etc and there is no build up. By creating an artificial environment like an office, we build up stress and it never goes away. Your brain doesn't know the difference between stress built up at work and fear of survival, so by exercising you inadvertantly fix the other part. Don't think I explained that overly well but you get the point... Very well put... that's exactly what I meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 feel for your it sounds aweful. i thought i may have had a panic attack before, but after your clear desription of what one is, i can say with confidence that i am yet to have one. take care mate, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 This place helped as well: http://www.nomorepanic.co.uk/forum.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Sorry to drag this up again Trev, but I am going through a similar thing at the moment and have my brain in such a negative spin at the moment where work is concerned im finding it difficult to relax at any time ive got into this downwards spiral at work with some unrealistic deadlines being set and general team issues getting me down and causing me a lot of stress. Its annoying me as well as its putting strain on other areas of my life such as relationships and freindships/family. Some of the symptoms I currently have are dizzyness, that gut churning feeling and loss of sexual drive which has never been an issue for me and is causing me a lot of anxiety in my current relationship. Any one have any tips that have worked for them getting there brain re-trained to reframe events that are the source of stress? Mikey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Sorry to drag this up again Trev, but I am going through a similar thing at the moment and have my brain in such a negative spin at the moment where work is concerned im finding it difficult to relax at any time ive got into this downwards spiral at work with some unrealistic deadlines being set and general team issues getting me down and causing me a lot of stress. Its annoying me as well as its putting strain on other areas of my life such as relationships and freindships/family. Some of the symptoms I currently have are dizzyness, that gut churning feeling and loss of sexual drive which has never been an issue for me and is causing me a lot of anxiety in my current relationship. Any one have any tips that have worked for them getting there brain re-trained to reframe events that are the source of stress? Mikey Yeah. Venlafaxine. It's the only stuff that works and doesn't fuck you up like the benzos do. Unfortunately it completely wipes out your sex drive! On the other hand, if you can be bothered with sex, it delays ejaculation too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 Sorry to drag this up again Trev, but I am going through a similar thing at the moment and have my brain in such a negative spin at the moment where work is concerned im finding it difficult to relax at any time ive got into this downwards spiral at work with some unrealistic deadlines being set and general team issues getting me down and causing me a lot of stress. Its annoying me as well as its putting strain on other areas of my life such as relationships and freindships/family. Some of the symptoms I currently have are dizzyness, that gut churning feeling and loss of sexual drive which has never been an issue for me and is causing me a lot of anxiety in my current relationship. Any one have any tips that have worked for them getting there brain re-trained to reframe events that are the source of stress? Mikey I've felt better since getting the dog, probably due to the relaxing effect pets are known to have, and also the exercise I'm now getting. I'd still like to start cycling more and swimming again, but all my stresses are caused by money so spending on swimming every week won't help! Cycling to work is on my plan at the moment. Yeah. Venlafaxine. It's the only stuff that works and doesn't fuck you up like the benzos do. Unfortunately it completely wipes out your sex drive! On the other hand, if you can be bothered with sex, it delays ejaculation too.. Ooh I wonder if Zoe can get that from work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Oh yeah, I got a doggy too. That helps :-) http://www.zuzoom.net/eddie.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n boost Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 I used to get panic attacks bad and actually passed out the one time and was taken to hospital in a ambulance. It was all related to stress which caused anxiety and all this will lead to depression. It is a viscious cycle once your in it and vey hard to break out off. I am mostly past my issues without taking any drugs the doctor offered but took up counselling and that put a light on to why i was getting so worked up. I got OCD because of this and only in counselling can they teach u what your body is doing and how to combat these problems. They will teach u relaxation techniques and trigger signs. I found the best way was as soon as u feel it coming on try and not think about whats happening and instead stare at something across the road or divert your attention and after doing this for a bit of time it will pass over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 I've got 2 ulcers at the moment too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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