Lbm Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Apparently people can't wait for them. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7712275.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Great, hopefully there'll be such a queue I'll be dead before I get to the front of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 Great, hopefully there'll be such a queue I'll be dead before I get to the front of it. Well I'm pumped & psyched, heck I just can't wait for mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkei Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 "laminated tax poll"... Say it all really... I doubt people have been pestering her for ID cards! If I saw her in the street, I wouldn't have a clue who she was?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I'm so stoked about these I'm trying for two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 "laminated tax poll"... Say it all really... I doubt people have been pestering her for ID cards! If I saw her in the street, I wouldn't have a clue who she was?! Maybe thats why she feels the need? laminated poll tax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I must admit I am a supporter of ID cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I must admit I am a supporter of ID cards. If they were free I wonder who wouldn't be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 If they were free I wonder who wouldn't be? I would happily pay if it meant bringing the population numbers back down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I would happily pay if it meant bringing the population numbers back down. I think you've got the wrong idea.... they're not shooting people who don't want them. Or are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 I would happily pay if it meant bringing the population numbers back down. As far as the culling is concerned, do you have a number in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaoriFan Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I'm so stoked about these I'm trying for two! The way it will work out. you will probably end up with two, different ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I am not a big fan of the cost of these but I do think that it will bother "dodgy" folk more than anyone else. If you have nothing to hide, then why are you bothered?? H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multics Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I am an ID card supporter too but the fact they're not free is a joke, on which other European country did they get this idea from? Also all this biometric stuff they want to put in is no good. I'm used to ID cards as I come from Belgium, they're free and it's an official state document that can be used for any purpose requiring a proof of identity like opening a bank account, getting a telephone line in your home etc. It's way too easy to fraud in Britain for example, applying for a credit card the banks usually ask a bill as a proof of address/ID but anyone can have a bill, you can get a BT bill just by ringing BT, getting a line and waiting 3 months to get a first bill. I don't understand why British people are so scared about ID cards yet we're the most surveilled people in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRalphMan Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I'm not opposed to them as long as they are implemented properly, but having to pay for the privileged of being monitored more closely.. Belgium seem to have the right idea. How often do they need to be changed and how hard wearing are they. Don't want to be called a terrorist if the laminate peals up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRalphMan Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I'm not opposed to them as long as they are implemented properly, but having to pay for the privileged of being monitored more closely.. Belgium seem to have the right idea. How often do they need to be changed and how hard wearing are they. Don't want to be called a terrorist if the laminate peals up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I would happily pay if it meant bringing the population numbers back down. As in use them to identify and deport illegals? That'll be the day. If the rules for immigration were as tough as Japan people wouldn't take the p*ss. I have to carry an Alien Registration card at ALL times and if the police stop me for any reason and I don't have it I'll be arrested. If I overstay my visa even by one day, I'll be interrogated for as long as they feel is necessary and then deported. They don't care if you're in the country as a working professional, a student or a tourists an overstay is an illegal alien and that is that. ID cards aren't going to do squat other than collect even more personal data on individuals and that's something that makes me nervous. All this "if you have nothing to hide" doesn't wash with me. If they really wanted to prevent crime there's far more effective ways than coming up with another multi-milliion pound scheme for collecting data on Joe Average. Funny how the article doesn't mention all the peope telling her to shove them up her a*se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I think you've got the wrong idea.... they're not shooting people who don't want them. Or are they? Really made me laugh... thanks (p.s. Im also in favour of shooting those who dont want them...) If you have nothing to hide, then why are you bothered?? H. Just my thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 So will this new card be a replacement for your passport, driving licence and library card as well then, or will we eventually have more ID cards on us than credit cards?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 As in use them to identify and deport illegals? That'll be the day. If the rules for immigration were as tough as Japan people wouldn't take the p*ss. I have to carry an Alien Registration card at ALL times and if the police stop me for any reason and I don't have it I'll be arrested. If I overstay my visa even by one day, I'll be interrogated for as long as they feel is necessary and then deported. They don't care if you're in the country as a working professional, a student or a tourists an overstay is an illegal alien and that is that. If only Britian was like this. As in use them to identify and deport illegals? That'll be the day. This is why in a nut shell, however as you said it probably will not work like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 If you have nothing to hide, then why are you bothered?? I hate the idea that I'll have to carry it around. As far as I'm concerned we live in a (mainly) free country, where you should be able to go out for a walk without carrying any form of ID at all - it's your choice. We work on a legal system of being innocent until proven guilty and in a country where it's compulsory to have an ID card on you, you'll immediately be treated with suspicion if you don't. It's another step towards a police state IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 I have 3 ID cards on me at the moment and nobody has attempted to send me to prison yet, I'm just wondering if they will put any kind of RFID in them so they can see where we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust2luv Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 If you have nothing to hide, then why are you bothered?? H. By that logic, would you mind if the State installs CCTV throughout your house to ensure you don't do anything illegal in your home? (with all the usual reassurances on confidentiality, security and fair use, naturally) If you've got nothing to hide (and you trust the Government), it shouldn't bother you... oh, and a black box in your car to monitor your speed and location at all times. cos obviously you've nothing to hide there either, and would happily except punishment for any indiscretions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multics Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Exactly, all this CCTV "if you're a good citizen then you've got nothing to be afraid of" is already the biggest privacy invasion and police state tactics. Going through airport security nowadays I feel more like suspect until proven innocent rather than the opposite. ID's should be an official document proving your identity, a bank card or water bill is not, period. A Passport is for travelling purposes as its name indicates and most of the times does not mention the holder's address. In Europe, Passports are barely used anymore since the borders are open... All European countries have the ID thing right for decades, why is it a problem in this country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Having carried an ID card for 22 years, the idea of carrying another one doesn't bother me at all. However, the idea of having to pay for it is a step too far for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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