SteveR Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 After having a look at bignum's camera setup (described here) I've decided I'm going to do something very similar to my Supra over the Winter. I'd like to be able to record my exploits on track, I reckon apart from being a nice momento from each thrashing session I could learn from watching the video back, too. Any tips for kit/installation? Any camera/recorder/vision mixer/power convertor recommendations or good value places to buy from? I'll document the process - maybe write up as a 'how to' if there is enough interest? - as I intend to keep all the wires (and cameras) as low key/hidden and tidy as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I'm interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukeyboy2k Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I'll document the process - maybe write up as a 'how to' if there is enough interest? - as I intend to keep all the wires (and cameras) as low key/hidden and tidy as possible. Definitely interested - particularly if it is a 'stealth' installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 Definitely interested - particularly if it is a 'stealth' installation. For what I ultimately have in mind, it needs to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexM Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Is there going to be a 'face cam' for when you scare yourself silly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 Is there going to be a 'face cam' for when you scare yourself silly? Gah Kate is sat here watching me type, so she'll now learn that I'm planning on putting a (scared) passenger face cam in place. EDIT - she now says she won't go in the car ever again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little num Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Well Well stevey baby, just so happens im doing this to mine tomorrow, ive got a 80gig HD recorder (ebay about £50). Anyways its going to dispaly the picture's using a 4 way switcher but this is a special switcher that allows it to show picture in picture mode (just like Bignums). Camera wise ive got 3 very small CCD camera's and they are 420TVL again ebay. cable needs to be screaned coax and 3 core for power and audio if required. Im going to power it all from a 12v power supply that plugs into a power convertor as its 240v, you can use 12v off the car but its very noisy and will cause lines on the pictures and look nasty, All this setup without fitting will cost around £300 ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share Posted November 6, 2008 nice one James baby - take some pics as you install it please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 You know what I'd like? A front camera setup with a GPS speed overlay. Madness, I hear you say? Not really, as you only record when you want to - primarily when police cars (sans blues) and scamera vans whistle past you over the speed limit. Then we can post the recordings on youtube and write to plod and the council asking them why they are allowed to do it, thus causing those frickers no end of hassle -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 What about something like this http://www.videovbox.co.uk/ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 You know what I'd like? A front camera setup with a GPS speed overlay. Madness, I hear you say? Not really, as you only record when you want to - primarily when police cars (sans blues) and scamera vans whistle past you over the speed limit. Then we can post the recordings on youtube and write to plod and the council asking them why they are allowed to do it, thus causing those frickers no end of hassle -Ian I wouldn't mind the option to have speed, but maybe even all the ju-ju stuff they have overlayed when you see motorsport on TV, e.g. throttle/brake position, (G?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CoolsBlue Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Forget that:D im currently looking into a 4 way in car secturity camera for the supra any help would be good:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 For what I ultimately have in mind, it needs to be. Vigilante cop?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 What about something like this http://www.videovbox.co.uk/ ? Very nice, just got off the phone with RaceLogic £1400 +vat for the unit £2000 +vat with two cameras £2700 +vat with two cameras and can data input The performance box which is similar without the video input starts around £280 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Very nice, just got off the phone with RaceLogic £1400 +vat for the unit £2000 +vat with two cameras £2700 +vat with two cameras and can data input The performance box which is similar without the video input starts around £280 Jesus wept. I was expecting around £1000 mark. Not paying £2350 for a car-camera setup. That's nuts, irrelevant of how nice it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 Plus it only seems to have 2 camera inputs - not enough. have you sen any of bignums videos? He has a vision mixer that is nifty of selecting: - any camera full screen (example here) - as above, but with 2 smaller cameras overlaid picture-in picture (example here) - all 4 cameras taking 1/4 screen each (example here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 That's a tremendous setup that he has there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted February 7, 2009 Author Share Posted February 7, 2009 This weekend I'll be gathering bits with the intention of getting an initial setup installed before Rockingham in 3 weeks time. Many thanks to bignum for suggesting the bits I need to get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 subscribed to thread Had a quick look at bignums install at the Welsh rally. Loved how hes managed toinstall a camera inside the interior lighting case on the roof. Good luck Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted February 7, 2009 Author Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) Loved how hes managed toinstall a camera inside the interior lighting case on the roof. I think Si's is inside his rear view mirror; he Dremmeld it into 2 pieces then glued it back together. Little num went for the interior light/roof lining and I think that's what I'd like to do, too. I'll take pics, of course. My biggest worry i being able to get at all that bit (and running the wires to it) without knackering the roof lining. Edited February 8, 2009 by SteveR typo correction (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) OK I just bought this power invertor (changes a DC 12v input to an AC ~240V output) from Maplins. http://images.maplin.co.uk/300/a17fg.jpg It's usually £40 but is on sale at just £25 until 17th Feb, and has free delivery until tomorrow I think, if anyway wants to grab one quick. Link if you want one Bignum recommended the 150W version saying that woudl have enough oomph, but the 300W is actually cheaper for the time being and will have that extra performance headroom -or- the option for me to end up plugging extra stuff into it at a later date. The invertor performs 2 useful functions: - removes noise caused by the alternator - the power adaptors for the various components (camera(s), recorder, vision mixer...) don't all have the same voltage requirements, but 240V AC to convertors are cheaper than the 12V to down convertors. ...I also have the option of plugging other stuff into it whilst out & about; e.g. a laptop for editing. This model has automatic alarm and shutdown in case of: - overloading - over temperature - low battery Job's a good un! Edited February 8, 2009 by SteveR (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 I just knocked up a basic diagram showing what I've got planned both now, and the faded-out stuff will be added later. P.V.R. = personal video recorder. Solid state memory with MPEG/AVI/MP4 format, USB connector to pull files off to laptop -> Home PC -> Youtube Key: green = power red = video signal blue = later date I need to add a mic somewhere, not sure whether to stick it in the engine bay for max single turbo noises, or in the cabin to hear what the occupants are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexM Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 How large are the cameras you are intending on using Steve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 How large are the cameras you are intending on using Steve? Teeny tiny - the front facing one will be put inside the headlining bulge above the rear view mirror. It won't be broadcast quality (480lines I think), but they're the same one big/little num have been using and they are fine for the purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexM Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Do you think one could be mounted inside the surround for the steering column (to view the dials), or are they not the right shape? I'd go for the internal mic by the way, bound to be much more entertaining - and you can still hear the single inside I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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