csa Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 This summer I had some problems with my GReddy intake leaking where it connect to the runners, so I had to do a quickfix with some QuickSteel to avoid taking out the engine to fit a new gasket. But, now I'm removing the engine for an overhaul anyways, and I was thinking of getting the intake welded togheter with the runners, to avoid the use over a gasket completely. Allready have a welder who says he can do it. What's your guys thoughts on doing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 This summer I had some problems with my GReddy intake leaking where it connect to the runners, so I had to do a quickfix with some QuickSteel to avoid taking out the engine to fit a new gasket. But, now I'm removing the engine for an overhaul anyways, and I was thinking of getting the intake welded togheter with the runners, to avoid the use over a gasket completely. Allready have a welder who says he can do it. What's your guys thoughts on doing this? as long as you are welding good alluminium alloy you should have no problems, ask to see some of the welders work if you dont know him and try and give him a trial run on somewhere that cant be seen to make sure it welds ok, oh and you will have to get ALL the quick steel of as well, it may be best to get it tak welded whilst its on the car to make sure you get it all in the right postion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csa Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 I've had the welder recommended as the "best aluminium welder out there", so I kind of trust that ;-) Getting the right postion shouldnt be a problem as the plenum it self is bolted togheter with the runners, and I intend to keep it that way, and then just "seal" it with a welding. But yes, I will give it a very thorough cleaning all over, including removal of the old floating gasket, before I hand it over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka-P Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Your best bet is to notch out the leaking point, which I presume is a crack, prior to welding. Purge the intake to ensure smooth internal penetration and make sure there is nothing else around there except aluminium, you'll get a nice scold mark on the metal when the A/C hits it which will be very hard to get rid of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csa Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 there's no cracks, but the current gasket is not completely tight even thoug I've patched it with quicksteel on the most severe places. what do you mean by purgeing the intake? and the scold mark from A/C....what is "A/C" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka-P Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I missread where you were welding at first. You wont need to purge it then, basically you run gas through the intake so it smooths the back of the weld. AC is the current used to weld ally, it will spray back on normal steels and leave a bit of a burn mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csa Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 well, It's all aluminium that's beeing welded....well...the stock runners are surely aluminium right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka-P Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I assume so, if the body is then the runners should be. Just double chack before you start welding, be a pain to damage your intake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd-mkiv Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 You wont need to purge it unless he will be going for full penetration but I would try putting the least amount of heat into it as poss to avoid distortion. Your best way of testing it will be to dye penetrant test it or if poss make some blanks up and have it pressure tested. can it be removed from the car if its all welded though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka-P Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I think his problem is its not seating well at the gasket joint? A new gasket and surface skim for flatness maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csa Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 no the problem is not the gasket between the head and runners, but the gasket between the runners and the plenum it self. it can't be removed from the car when the engine is in the car as it is, so that won't change anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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