Mike Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 It's legal for an eight year old to shoot a machine gun?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkei Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Surely if they're allowing small children to fire sub-machine guns, STRICT supervision should be given, like the instructor or father holding the boy and helping him fire the weapon in a safe, controlled manner, not giving him the gun and saying, "Shoot that pumpkin son! Let him have it!" And then wondering why people end up getting killed?! Luckily it was only the child who died and the gun didn't spray bullets all over the place injuring or killed other people too! The idiocy of some people amazes me, and it's usually Americans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJames Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 wow that is horrible! .. poor guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 oh my god! I really dont know what to say! Guns are designed with 1 thing in mind killing/maiming people what the hell were they thinking giving an 8 year old a go with a uzi! surly that is learning to run before you can walk and what would that have done to the boys morals if he hadnt died? That letting off an uzi was "cool" I can see it now a group of 8 year olds round there mates house shooting off pistols and stuff in the yard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 To be fair. They strap mines to dolphins. Why dont Uzi's to babies. This world is F**ked up enough as it is. Lets so how far we can go. Rocket launchers on Sparrows Knifes on mice Anti tank mines on hedgehogs. Sorry,... what are we talking about again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Some good ideas there Ed Don't hurt the Sparrows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 It's legal for an eight year old to shoot a machine gun?! Yep - read the link: it's legal as long as the parent approves, and there is an instructor on hand. Surely if they're allowing small children to fire sub-machine guns, STRICT supervision should be given, like the instructor or father holding the boy and helping him fire the weapon in a safe, controlled manner, not giving him the gun and saying, "Shoot that pumpkin son! Let him have it!" And then wondering why people end up getting killed?! Luckily it was only the child who died and the gun didn't spray bullets all over the place injuring or killed other people too! The idiocy of some people amazes me, and it's usually Americans! Strict supervision WAS given - the instructor was right there, and the father was a few feet behind. The idea of holding on to the kid or the gun to "help" is a foolish suggestion. Have you ever fired a real gun yourself, or had basic weapons training? I guess not, because that is one of the things YOU DO NOT DO - it just makes it more dangerous for everyone, with the moving parts and hot brass being ejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Knifes on mice They may then stand a chance against my cats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 It's somewhat dispraportionate though, no? You did start a sentence 'To be fair...' Perhaps the US gun death tally should only amount to 5 x 58? Not disproportinate, the number is exponential. The actual maths is Number of deaths = Number of Americans x Average IQ x God given right to bear arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Not disproportinate, the number is exponential. The actual maths is Number of deaths = Number of Americans x Average IQ x God given right to bear arms. Multiplying by 0.x will have a massive impact on the figures though The fact that they are allowed to bear arms is a huge factor though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Yep - read the link: it's legal as long as the parent approves, and there is an instructor on hand. Strict supervision WAS given - the instructor was right there, and the father was a few feet behind. The idea of holding on to the kid or the gun to "help" is a foolish suggestion. Have you ever fired a real gun yourself, or had basic weapons training? I guess not, because that is one of the things YOU DO NOT DO - it just makes it more dangerous for everyone, with the moving parts and hot brass being ejected. Obviously strict supervision wasn't given, otherwise he wouldn't be dead would he? The father was, by his own admission 10 feet away. What could he do from 10 feet away? Nothing. I have had shot a number of weapons from shotguns through to fully automatic SA80 rifles and even done some competition target shooting in my day, and there is no way in hell I would let a small child shoot anything more than a pop gun, and even if he was a lot older, I wouldn't have been 10 feet away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Not disproportinate, the number is exponential. The actual maths is Number of deaths = Number of Americans x Average IQ x God given right to bear arms. I stand corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benkei Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Strict supervision WAS given - the instructor was right there, and the father was a few feet behind. The idea of holding on to the kid or the gun to "help" is a foolish suggestion. Have you ever fired a real gun yourself, or had basic weapons training? I guess not, because that is one of the things YOU DO NOT DO - it just makes it more dangerous for everyone, with the moving parts and hot brass being ejected. Helping the kid hold the gun and supporting him is more foolish than giving an uzi to an eight year old? Saying giving assistance to someone who clearly needs it is foolish is a ridiculous remark. And no, STRICT supoervison was not given... That's why he's dead And again, no, i haven't had any weapons training, just like I haven't had astronaught training, or been show how to build a nuclear weapon.. Mainly because these are skills I will never need When I was a kid, my dad let me fire his air rifle, not a REAL gun I know, but still a dangerous piece of equiptment. He was behind me and helped me hold the gun and giving support as it was quite heavy, and the recoil on it would have been a shock to me too (it was spring propelled) and I would have had no experience of firing any sort of gun EVER. This was a LOT safer than just giving me a gun and leaving me to my own devices! And I have fired a 'real' gun too... And from my experience I would definately NOT give one to a small child!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 To be fair, I think LBM was pointing out that the US has a much larger number of gun deaths pro rata than would be expected. I also think Mr Apple was under the impression that the USA had a much greater population in comparison to lil ole UK. To be fair (I'm enjoying this) I think you hit it ont he head. Slightly surprised that there are so few of them. As for Mr Apple, my friends call me Marble.... you can keep calling me Mr Apple though It's about the same proportionately as population differential. Alcohol related deaths per annum: UK:18,000 US:100,000 That is a surprise when you think they don't allow people to drink till they are 21 over there.... and they are strict about it....They ID'd my grandmother when I was over there last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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