Chris Wilson Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I was just browsing on pistonheads when i came across this beauty but suprised how much the price has gone up. I still remember going down park lane past the mclaren dealer going wow. http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/list.asp?s=664 It's called "flying a kite", or more simply, ludicrous optimism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSoop Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Have you seen the seats, theres more legroom than a limo in the F1 For me though I would have the F1, it's always been my dream car since I was about 4. Really?? Wow tht's suprising given the fact of how compact that the Mclaren F1 looks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Gordon Murray understood the 2 primary goals for a seriously fast road car that's actually usable on normal roads and on track days. Small and very light. All other "Supercar" designers lose sight of one or both of these necessities. A well driven 106 GTi can lose a huge barge down country roads by the very fact it can stay on its own side of the road and not follow cambers and head for the ditch. The other huge advantage the McLaren has over a Veyron is its pure technical simplicity. A competent home mechanic could work on the mechanicals. How long would an 80,000 miler Veyron spend and cost in workshops compared to the McLaren?? I'd love to know some of the less well published facts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlton Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Really?? You must have be a dwarf then to fit in the back of those seats!! The F1 is quite spacious inside, I was quite lucky and got to sit in one and steer it through the warehouse when I worked for McLaren - It was a race spec one too with full roll cage and switches. Will never forget that moment Also got to hear a road version fired up, it sounded great! I thought you could only sell an F1 by going through McLaren? F1 LM over a Veyron any day for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 IIRC That orange race spec one has been promised to Lewis Hamilton if he wins the championship this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermonkey Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I would be happy with a F40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 That F1 LM is the nuts! however 1.9 mill would make one awesome collection of cars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 The F1 is quite spacious inside, I was quite lucky and got to sit in one and steer it through the warehouse when I worked for McLaren - It was a race spec one too with full roll cage and switches. Will never forget that moment Also got to hear a road version fired up, it sounded great! Lucky lucky man IIRC That orange race spec one has been promised to Lewis Hamilton if he wins the championship this year. Wow, that would be some incentive I tell ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 People still havn't mentioned where the one for sale is based yet. Might explain the high price and the 1 picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soop Dogg Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I've heard of one or two cars from abroad on pistonheads recently with high prices. It's been suggested that the default currency on the site displays in £, but people are putting the figures down in their own currency. Might explain the price being so high? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Might explain the price being so high? Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSoop Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 The F1 is quite spacious inside, I was quite lucky and got to sit in one and steer it through the warehouse when I worked for McLaren - It was a race spec one too with full roll cage and switches. Will never forget that moment Also got to hear a road version fired up, it sounded great! I thought you could only sell an F1 by going through McLaren? F1 LM over a Veyron any day for me http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/McLaren_F1_LM.jpg/800px-McLaren_F1_LM.jpg What a lucky guy you are then... IIRC That orange race spec one has been promised to Lewis Hamilton if he wins the championship this year. Lucky b**tard!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Really?? Wow tht's suprising given the fact of how compact that the Mclaren F1 looks.... You'd fit with no problem Shane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 F1 LM over a Veyron any day for me http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/McLaren_F1_LM.jpg/800px-McLaren_F1_LM.jpg Very nice, but the LM edition is like 2 or 3 times the price of the Bugatti! I'd still rather have the McLaren I think... theres just something about it I prefer over the Bugatti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 IIRC That orange race spec one has been promised to Lewis Hamilton if he wins the championship this year. I thought it was 3 world championships in 5 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I thought it was 3 world championships in 5 years? Just the 1 I think - but its driver and constructor titles: http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080327.012/hamilton-will-receive-4m-mclaren-f1-lm-for-2008-title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 One? Thats no challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Just the 1 I think - but its driver and constructor titles: http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080327.012/hamilton-will-receive-4m-mclaren-f1-lm-for-2008-title How annoyed is he going to be when he wins the drivers but not the constructors because Heiki hasn't performed this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockys96 Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 u get sum gear with this one http://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car/12099/index.html?no_cache=1&cHash=ba56227f83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr lover Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I have been in the F1, a customer of ours took me out Also an F40 and a Zonda to boot, the guy had a £26m collection of cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 That's why it's pretty irrelevant that diesels have more torque than petrols - they are higher geared because they rev lower so less reaches the wheels. I don't follow what you mean as you still have variable gearing, the extra torque of diesels makes them better than equivalent petrol models for overtaking with them having superior torque levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbloodyturbo Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I don't follow what you mean as you still have variable gearing, the extra torque of diesels makes them better than equivalent petrol models for overtaking with them having superior torque levels. they have more peak torque than equivalent petrols but they are only producing it at low rpm which means the work done isn't what it seems to be, it is always better to produce torque at high rpm as HP is a function of torque and rises quickly with rpm. To get proper speeds out of a diesel that doesn't go any harder than 5k, you'd need tall gearing which reduces the torque at the wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 I don't follow what you mean as you still have variable gearing, the extra torque of diesels makes them better than equivalent petrol models for overtaking with them having superior torque levels. Let's say you have 2 engines, one produces 100ftlbs torque but revs to 10000 revs. The other 200ftlbs but only revs to 5000rpm. You want you car to have a top speed of 100mph. Engine one you have to gear to produce 1mph per 100rpm. Engine two you have to gear to produce 2mph per 100rpm to achieve this. So engine 1 has twice the torque reaching the wheels as engine 2 because of the gearing - result: they both deliver the same torque to the wheels. Obviously the other gears are spread out underneath the final gearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 obviously the other gears are spread out underneath the final gearing. That was my point, I wasn't talking about maximum speeds but acceleration using the gears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 That was my point, I wasn't talking about maximum speeds but acceleration using the gears. Yeah but you need a pretty even spread under the top gear down to 1st or it would be horrible. So as well as top being taller for lower rpm the others will be too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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