michael Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 The awkward press conference was probably the highlight, Massa and Raikkonen seemed to have different opinions about how the place swap happened. Respect to the Raik for being more honest “It (closing stages) was the best time for me on the race, I was quite strong, and I caught him (Raikkonen) and I passed him so that was a good part of the race. We know what we want as a team, and that's what we did - it's normal in this situation. I know what the team expects and what we wants for our results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_blackman Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I was just reading the race summary lol, sounds quite a boring race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Aye, what a bloody boring race, the only good bit was LH's start, then I just struggled to stay awake... Agree about the press conference, you'd have thought they'd have planned what to say beforehand... Are the results finalised now? Or will the stewards give LH a 25 second penalty for not causing any incidents?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I believe thats team orders..... Penalty TIME!!! And I am a ferrari fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Are the results finalised now? Or will the stewards give LH a 25 second penalty for not causing any incidents?... I am sure they can put Massa in front for something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I believe thats team orders..... Penalty TIME!!! And I am a ferrari fan Are they not supposed to do this then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Are they not supposed to do this then? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_orders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Subsequently, after the 2002 Austrian Grand Prix incident where Rubens Barrichello was ordered to allow Ferrari teammate Michael Schumacher to pass in order to obtain the win, "Team Orders that could influence the outcome of a race" were banned in F1 regulations, although they are sometimes still implemented discreetly. For example, this has sometimes been achieved as easily as a team getting on the radio to the slower driver and pointing out that his teammate is quicker. The slower driver then lets the quicker driver through without the need for an overt "directive" from the team They should be pulled up on this but no doubt will not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I thought team orders as such on track were illegal....unless you are a Ferrari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRACIE_LOU Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 if the drivers have an agrement then its not team orders lol:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted October 19, 2008 Author Share Posted October 19, 2008 if the drivers have an agrement then its not team orders lol:p Indeed, there were no official orders... on the day at least, who knows what they decide beforehand - it didn't come as a shock though. As Raikkonen said he knew what he needed to do and he did it, I suspect he would have preferred to keep racing but at the end of the day he's an employee and needs to keep the bosses happy. McLaren should have left Kovalainen out with his dodgy brakes, brought him in for a pit stop and put him out between Raikkonen and Massa before they got chance to do the move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 They should be pulled up on this but no doubt will not. agree I thought team orders as such on track were illegal....unless you are a Ferrari. its the fine print in the Official FIA Rule Book if the drivers have an agrement then its not team orders lol:p Do you think that Kimi wanted to let him through? Ferrari has told him (beforehand) to let him through, I say that constitutes "team orders". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I would imagine that all teams have team orders. Not that I would know for sure though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I was always going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted October 19, 2008 Author Share Posted October 19, 2008 I was always going to happen. That's good news, we'd be lost without you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I was always going to happen. To think otherwise is a bit naive to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 Don't forget Heikki *chose* to let LH through in Germany. Kimi is out of the drivers title race, *HIS* points don't matter any more - he knows that, it's frustrating for him but it's his own fault for not delivering through the last 6 races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 That's good news, we'd be lost without you. Oops I do have a bad hangover if that is reasonable excuse for my typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 The most predicted overtaking manouever of the whole race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Yes a very boring race. So Hamilton 7 points ahead going into the last race... wasn't he 7 points ahead last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Yes a very boring race. So Hamilton 7 points ahead going into the last race... wasn't he 7 points ahead last year? i think so. Was very boring but a good result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDriver Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Race was indeed very boring. Kubica didn't perform that well unfortunatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Race was indeed very boring. Kubica didn't perform that well unfortunatly. The BMW has been a PITA to setup all year, I wouldn't blame either driver for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Was it me, or was Lewis beaten with a big stick by his father. He was much more humble, and certainly there was a lot more "We" in his words. Fair play to Ferrari for giving him credit where it was due. I still can't shake off the feeling that Lewis has been force fed a bit of humble pie and read the riot act. His father's face when he was on the podium just said 'Now son, that is how you do it, and no more of silly shit, okay!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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