dr_jekyll Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 will the aem fic work on an obd1 ecu , 1994 n/a the car has had a n/a-t conversion and i dont know alot about the aem , so any experience of the unit and feedback would be apriciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 No reason it wouldn't HOWEVER not a great deal of people have used them here, so you would probably be better off with an Emanage Ultimate which is more widely used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Are you talking about the AEM ECU? if so them mit has to be the specific part number for the n/a. 30-1101 as opposed to 30-1100 for the TT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 hi again gav , yes thats what i thaught , but iv done my reaserch on them and the reviws from people with a similar set up 2 myself have not been over convinceing , and i heard a whisper that the aem would be a better option , ? i have basicly built the whole car from a bare chassis over the past 6 months without a problem until the final hurdle , its cracking me up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 Are you talking about the AEM ECU? if so them mit has to be the specific part number for the n/a. 30-1101 as opposed to 30-1100 for the TT no i was talikng abut the aem piggy back fuel ignition controller , but if they make a replacement ecu for the ge i could be interested , do you have any idea of cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 no i was talikng abut the aem piggy back fuel ignition controller , but if they make a replacement ecu for the ge i could be interested , do you have any idea of cost For your goals emanage blue will suffice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 see , now thats what iv wanted to hear from day one , but so many people have told me the blue will be no good for my ge because it cannot retard the timeing and i risc pre ignition . 330 bhp is not a scratch of what the 2jzs are capable of so i thaught the lower end fuel controllers would suffice , but my current safc would not do the job because my map sensor wont support boost, so i questiond the emanage blue and was turned against it , would the blue alow me 2 simply up the fuel under boost and iradicate my map sensor from throwing codes and cutting my fuel ? bromy if you tell me it will , i will hapily take your word and go for one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 see , now thats what iv wanted to hear from day one , but so many people have told me the blue will be no good for my ge because it cannot retard the timeing and i risc pre ignition . 330 bhp is not a scratch of what the 2jzs are capable of so i thaught the lower end fuel controllers would suffice , but my current safc would not do the job because my map sensor wont support boost, so i questiond the emanage blue and was turned against it , would the blue alow me 2 simply up the fuel under boost and iradicate my map sensor from throwing codes and cutting my fuel ? bromy if you tell me it will , i will hapily take your word and go for one You will have no problems with the blue. Nothing will control the timing on the n/a as it is a mechanical system unless you switch over to coil packs like the tt but that costs money. Timing has not been altered on mine and I have had not one problem in over three years of doing my na-t conversion. You will however NEED larger injectors the 330cc are just too small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 ok , so you use the blue and your happy so i will go with that, could you pleas tell me a bit more about your set up , what aditional parts you need with the em blue , how you delt with the map sensor , psi, afr , ijector size ect , all mutch apriciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 ok , so you use the blue and your happy so i will go with that, could you pleas tell me a bit more about your set up , what aditional parts you need with the em blue , how you delt with the map sensor , psi, afr , ijector size ect , all mutch apriciated Fueling: Walbro pump Aeromotive FPR set @ 38psi 525cc injectors Emanage blue with map sensor No ignition changes 2mm headgasket I am pretty sure the signal from the standard sensor to the ECU was not clamped but mine is OBD2. AFR's are how they should be on WOT (11.5 ish). Make sure you bang some NGK 3330's in there too. All in all it has been a reliable set up for me but make sure you find someone who CAN map the blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) ok , so you use the blue and your happy so i will go with that, could you pleas tell me a bit more about your set up , what aditional parts you need with the em blue , how you delt with the map sensor , psi, afr , ijector size ect , all mutch apriciated .... Edited October 10, 2008 by bromy Whoops double post (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 thanks alot , ill get on it and see how ewe get on , hopefully ill have some joy with this setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 You will have no problems with the blue. Nothing will control the timing on the n/a as it is a mechanical system unless you switch over to coil packs like the tt but that costs money. Timing has not been altered on mine and I have had not one problem in over three years of doing my na-t conversion. You will however NEED larger injectors the 330cc are just too small Didn't realise that the N/A was completely mechanical when it comes to timing control, however if that is the case, i am really surprised that none of you N/AT owners don't run into det problems, do you use a knock monitor, or det cans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Didn't realise that the N/A was completely mechanical when it comes to timing control, however if that is the case, i am really surprised that none of you N/AT owners don't run into det problems, do you use a knock monitor, or det cans? as far as i know aslong as you stay below 9psi on normal pump fuel whith the standard head gasket ther should be no problems , or thats what many others have told me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 You will have no problems with the blue. Nothing will control the timing on the n/a as it is a mechanical system unless you switch over to coil packs like the tt but that costs money. Timing has not been altered on mine and I have had not one problem in over three years of doing my na-t conversion. You will however NEED larger injectors the 330cc are just too small Just been doing a bit of reading, cos i thought the whole "mechanical system " bit didn't ring true, yes it has a distributer alright but its has igniter's and is ECU controlled, and so responds to advance/retard signals and knock control, but i would still maintain that timing left as STD would not be ideal, and i suspect that the knock control may be getting plenty of work at 9 PSI, which is why i asked if any N/AT owners have dedicated knock sensors fitted, or use det cans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 They dont have knock sensors as standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 They dont have knock sensors as standard. I'm afraid they do, check the manual, anyway i was referring to aftermarket det sensors or cans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 i think a knock sensor would be a good investment goin on what youv sed. hopefully if i stay at 7 psi onn 99oct i shouldnt have that problem but best to keep it moniterd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Timing on the n/a cannot be fudged electronically fullstop. The only way to do it is by rotating the dizzy, or switching to coilpacks then it can be controlled using a ecu such as the AEM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 If advance/retard is controlled by from ECU, which it must be to have knock control then there will be a way to "fudge" the control;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 I think there is an electronic signal sent to the distributor from the ECU, so it's breakerless ignition like MSD and Lumenition jobbies. But it's just the one wire. Theoretically the EMB and EMU can control that signal with the right jumper settings and ignition channel 1 tapped into that line to the dizzy, but as far as I know it's untested in the world of Supras. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Found this on mhodparts, which i know is aimed at the earlier Supra but if it uses the same ign system? it may be of use to somebody. http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/install/supra_mk3/ignition_emanage2.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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