Jellybean Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I would like to paly around with some mapping software and get to know the theory behind mapping a car What software is used? Is it possible to get an emulator? Anybody recommend any books, websites, resources? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Download the AEM or Solaris software from their websites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Download the AEM or Solaris software from their websites Cool will do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Download the AEM or Solaris software from their websites but what about an emulator? Like an emulated engine that you can run off the emulated ECU, where you can hear and see it wobble/nearly stall, monitor sensors, watch power increase, pistons melt, etc. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 ...where you can hear and see it wobble/nearly stall, monitor sensors, watch power increase, pistons melt, etc. ? Kind of like working for turbofit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonus_2000 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 kind of like working for turbofit? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 anybody?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I don't think such a thing exists for the mainstream ecu's. Motec used to have one but that was donkey years ago, and almost certainly will not work with later software. I too would like such an application. Next best thing is to put a management system on a really cheap engine and not worry if something goes drastically wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 I don't think such a thing exists for the mainstream ecu's. Motec used to have one but that was donkey years ago, and almost certainly will not work with later software. I too would like such an application. Next best thing is to put a management system on a really cheap engine and not worry if something goes drastically wrong Thanks Chris but surely colleges have to have some form of emulator I will do some more digging and see what I find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Let me know if you find anything please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesword22 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 this is something that i have been looking into as well mate i have a couple of books here that are pretty interesting reading how to tune and modify engine management systems - jeff hartman engine management advanced tuning - greg banish i have had alook at a diagnostic software called digimoto just to test things out havent connected to any ecus yet. here are just a few sample screens from the software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Thanks Chris but surely colleges have to have some form of emulator When my mate was in Uni they had a dyno cell in a container near the carpark and played with real engines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 We somwtimes use big boxes that can be set up to simulate the many different signals coming out of an engine (crank position sensor, cam sensors, TPS, etc, etc). It gets plugged into the ECU so the ECU thinks it is hooked up to a real engine so that the software and calibration can be debugged. It doesn't determine what effects the changes you are making will have on performance, however. What you need for that is some performance simulation software, which will cost you a fortune. Ricardo WAVE or GT-Power (AVL, I think). Or you could go to http://www.lesoft.co.uk and download our own LES package. I believe we still allow you to downlonad a free version which is limited to single cylinder engines. Even if you go this route, you will find that the data you need to gather and input to model a real engine in order to get the simulation to give proper results is huge - and not the kind of stuff that the man in the street usually can get access to. Good luck if you give it a go, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 It may be that buying an AEM ecu and an MR2 turbo and a dyno dynamics Rolling road may be cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 You could get a cheapo engine from a scrappy, anything with full fuel injection and ignition control, pickup a cheap ECU capable or running it and setup on a bench at home and play all you like. EDIT: i just sold a 220hp rover tomcat turbo engine with loom and ECU for £275, something like that would be ideal. If you dont have the money for a porper ECU to play with then you could build something like a megasquirt which would give you an even more in depth look. http://www.msefi.com/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share Posted October 8, 2008 Thanks for all the info, anybody know the name of the main stream tuning packages used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 A while ago I heard of a package called desktop dyno 2000, produced by this company... http://www.motionsoftware.com/ And just now when searching for that I spotted this... http://www.virtualengine2000.com/ Haven't looked into either so I can't say how good they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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