johnd-mkiv Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 The only regret I have is not buying a bigger turbo would never go back to BPU after having a single Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 So what are the pitfalls people experience then? Seems to me, on face value that a single conversion kit designed for the car should have no problems? Why isnt a bigger twins conversion more popular? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Main pitfall imo is cost of doing it right, check my project thread for what it costs to do a modest conversion. Why isnt a bigger twins conversion more popular? Complex and laggy when compared to a modern good quality single kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 So what are the pitfalls people experience then? Seems to me, on face value that a single conversion kit designed for the car should have no problems? Why isnt a bigger twins conversion more popular? More expensive & complicated for the most of it. They're generally a little extreme for road use. I sold my BPU UK spec Auto, and bought a single six speed. The only time I ever regret getting a single is in stop/start traffic. Otherwise it's definately worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 The only time I ever regret getting a single is in stop/start traffic. Otherwise it's definately worth it. Whats wrong with it? mine drives like stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 When i decide to buy another supra (which i will) i will buy a singled one thats already been done and thats been done right and keep a few £k in the bank for when i break it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Whats wrong with it? mine drives like stock. Nothing, i'm actually very suprised how 'stock' the clutch feels. I was also expecting the gearchange to be a little 'industrial', but I find it smooth and accurate. It's just the auto is really good in traffic. I guess i'm just lazy I miss kickdown too, but the pros of a manual definately outweigh the cons overall. I can't wait to get it on a track! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nothing, i'm actually very suprised how 'stock' the clutch feels. I was also expecting the gearchange to be a little 'industrial', but I find it smooth and accurate. It's just the auto is really good in traffic. I guess i'm just lazy I miss kickdown too, but the pros of a manual definately outweigh the cons overall. I can't wait to get it on a track! Nothing to do with single then:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Nothing to do with single then:D I guess I have gone a little off topic. I'd say the only downside with the single is the wastegate attracts alot of attention. Although that's also one of the benefits of a single, so it doesn't really count. Standing start acceleration is also pretty poor (due to loss of traction), although i'm hoping a set of R888s will cure this to an extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt k Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Those of you who have gone single, do you regret it? I am wondering if there is such a setup which would avoid the many pitfalls many people seem to experience in going single. If you could magic your car back to Stock/BPU and take back the money spent would you? Yes, stock with some subtle styling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I guess I have gone a little off topic. I'd say the only downside with the single is the wastegate attracts alot of attention. Although that's also one of the benefits of a single, so it doesn't really count. Standing start acceleration is also pretty poor (due to loss of traction), although i'm hoping a set of R888s will cure this to an extent. Yup, good Geo setup and R888's will make a world of difference, if your suspension is rock hard that wont help either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I don't regret having a single. But from experience buying one setup and finished is a lot better than getting one built yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_have Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Done two, love them both. No regrets at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Yup, good Geo setup and R888's will make a world of difference, if your suspension is rock hard that wont help either. That's what i'm thinking. I was going to take it to Mr Wilson (NOT to be confused with the grumpy old man from Dennis), although I don't think he'll like the 18s or the Aragosta coilovers from what I hear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 totally regret going single. Made me distrust the car and everything it did. I became worried driving it any distance in case it threw up a problem. I never used the power to its fullest and never had enough money to put in to the car to make it run perfectly. Went back to stock turbos and I found my love of Supras again. A stock based supra on BPU+ will be as much of a hoot as a single, and probably without the huge investment or the need to put in an aftermarket ECU etc. Think long and hard about going single turbo. It was also rare to see a single when I did mine, its very common now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazB Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I Love my single Don't like driving in traffic as the clutch is The open road is far more fun, but saying that the look you get when giving it a foot full takes some matching The expense doesn't bother me as i could have spent 70/80/90k on a Porka or 100k+ on a Ferrari and still not had the same buzz as i get from my Supra. I also dought that i would have taken something like that to the drag strip once a month, i also think insurance, servicing, fuel and depriciation costs would have been far more than i've spent on my Supra. I wouldn't advise anybody to start with a single conversion without having cash in the bank and be prepared to spend it! Even then be prepared for things to go wrong, as taking thing to the extreme normally means weaker parts will break some time down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I dont regret it at all. Some days are harder than others when bits go wrong but for similar money i dont think i would have had as much fun in anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 The cost side of things is a big factor, people try to cut corners and thats where the problems start, do it right and all should be fine if the base car is healthy. its not cheap. Get the car checked over (compression check etc) and make sure there are no problems before you start. Talk with people that have done it before and get advice on what parts work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest getmoregetmint Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 dont flame me if its like a really stupid question, but i need to learn hah. im sure everyone was the same few years back but, whats the advantage of having a single over a twin anyway? surely, on paper, having a twin turbo would be more powerful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 but, whats the advantage of having a single over a twin anyway? surely, on paper, having a twin turbo would be more powerful? The singles that people put on are a lot bigger (so can flow a lot more air) than the standard twin turbos, so you get lots more power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chingy Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 love my single set up, puts a smile on my face everytime I drive it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob wild Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Been single a few years now and its been a roller coaster of highs and lows! I think i've done my "properly" and not cut any corners and tbh its been very reliable (single related kit and engine) but whats still not sorted is the autobox Again to future proof the car and to handle the power of a single I went down the BL box route to try and make the car even more bullet proof however its just been one problem after another and i'm now on whats going to be my third box Im just glad that i choose Michel to help sort it as he's kept on helping me to try and get it sorted It is very expensive! and has the potential for causing massive unreliability if not done right. I don't see it as a car anymore I just think off it as a hobby! and one that I get to do everyday! But again I think Im in a bit of low at the moment and just fed up with it because of the box! But hopefully all will be sorted soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I kinda regret not doing, it would have been a fantastic project to take on and would have loved to let Gaz and his lads run free on it. However what stopped me was the the fact I would never get the money back and my budget was 10k. I then started to look at what Cars I could get for 15-20k and turned out one of my dream cars was in that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 My main worry about going single is the distance I am from any tuners that know what they are doing. A long way on a flat bed if/when it breaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Main pitfall imo is cost of doing it right, check my project thread for what it costs to do a modest conversion. Complex and laggy when compared to a modern good quality single kit. I would have thought 2 smaller modern turbos would be less laggy than single? I do get the complexity though, can imagine making a manifold woult be a bit difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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