Myles Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 Has anyone here used/considered using one of these as a method of boost control . Looks like a discreet & cheap (like me - hey , I'm nothing if not cheap) method . I'm thinking of getting one , along with some CW decat pipes ...I'll even keep my orange repeater lights , to maintain the stealth effect ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrenn Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 Hi Myles I just bought one, got it right here...looks OK. There's no way I can justify 300 quid or whatever for an electronic controller when a manual one costing 50 quid does just as good job. My feeling is, you'd play with the features for about a week, then once you are happy with the boost setting you'd just leave it at the same level anyhow. Might as well have a nice discrete manual controller tucked out of sight in the engine bay. IMHO... You can get them in the UK from Performance Exhausts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted August 29, 2002 Author Share Posted August 29, 2002 Cheers Paul , let us know how you get on with fitting & using . There was one for sale on the 200sx board , so I thought I'd see what the general consensus was here . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 Originally posted by paulrenn There's no way I can justify 300 quid or whatever for an electronic controller when a manual one costing 50 quid does just as good job. It depends an electonic controller can bring on boost sooner and keep it stable for longer (because it's basically continually adjusting the amount of "bleed" from the system). It really depends what your after, the 50 quid part will do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 So what do you think is best to monitor the amounts of boost that you achieve - manual gauge or electonic? paul:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 Datalogger Originally posted by Paul E So what do you think is best to monitor the amounts of boost that you achieve - manual gauge or electonic? paul:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banaman69 Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 have just read your thread and went ahead and purchased the boost controller but was told that i would need 2 is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrenn Posted August 30, 2002 Share Posted August 30, 2002 Depends how many wastegate lines your Supra has..................! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banaman69 Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 well i have a 3ltr tt has the car 1 or 2 wastegates im not sure,anyone please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinL Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 Originally posted by banaman69 well i have a 3ltr tt has the car 1 or 2 wastegates im not sure,anyone please let me know. one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banaman69 Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 so when i enquired about the dawes device boost controller i would only need one as there is only one wastegate is that correct,its just that the guy said i needed 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinL Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 Originally posted by banaman69 so when i enquired about the dawes device boost controller i would only need one as there is only one wastegate is that correct,its just that the guy said i needed 2. I think the guy is assuming that the turbo's work in parallel which in that case would have two wastegates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrenn Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 Who did you contact about the boost controller? Order from the link I posted earlier... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 Paul - when are you fitting yours? Really interested in how it turns out Cheers Paul:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banaman69 Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 ill have to wait about a weekso probably be fitting next weekend.ill let you know. i did call back to change the order to 1 controller instead of 2.hoping that my car has the 1 wastegate line is this correct anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 Like the sound of this.... not that I'm a cheapskate, but, as mentioned above, I might want to increase boost (a little) but won't want to vary it. (and also don't really want any more 'bits' in dashboard) I presume it must be of UTMOST importance to have boost gauge fitted first as there's no way of checking/ setting Dawes otherwise ? [ Is it REALLY as easy as it seems to fit ? just a simplified version of a 'Boost Controller' ? ] Simple-Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrenn Posted August 31, 2002 Share Posted August 31, 2002 Hi Steve You just install it in the wastegate line, take it for drive, then adjust in small increments until you achieve the desired boost pressure. Yes, you'll need a gauge so that you can verify the pressure. There are installation notes on the Dawes US website. I haven't done it yet, but will be doing it at the end of September. If no-one's pioneered it by then I can write it up. It might be on the mkiv.com website already, haven't checked. I bought it after seeing it recommended on the US mkiv list. There are two versions, one is the "race" type and is supposed to act a tiny bit quicker, but I just went with the "normal" type. At least you know this can't really fail, unless the hoses fail, and doesn't need power etc etc. Just an easy and discrete installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Originally posted by banaman69 ill have to wait about a weekso probably be fitting next weekend.ill let you know. i did call back to change the order to 1 controller instead of 2.hoping that my car has the 1 wastegate line is this correct anyone? Yes, just the one. There is a wastegate on #1 turbo (the one at the front of the engine) which controls the boost level when both turbos are onstream. However, there is also a valve called the exhaust gas bypass valve that a) prespools #2 turbo, and b) controls the boost level of #1 turbo when only that one is onstream. You can fit a bleeder type thing on this as well to up #1 turbo's boost when below 4000rpm. More wellie lower down the rev range then -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted September 2, 2002 Share Posted September 2, 2002 Originally posted by Ian C However, there is also a valve called the exhaust gas bypass valve that a) prespools #2 turbo, and b) controls the boost level of #1 turbo when only that one is onstream. You can fit a bleeder type thing on this as well to up #1 turbo's boost when below 4000rpm. More wellie lower down the rev range then -Ian Martin F had a bleeder T turned into an H that I was using on my Supra TT, not sure if he's got round to putting in on or if he had a good as a increasde as I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Martin F Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 Not yet mate, started setting up my DSBC but not happy with all my settings yet. As soon as i have that sorted then i'm going to put the bleeder T in for No1 turbo. Will let peeps know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted September 3, 2002 Share Posted September 3, 2002 This is the setup I used, I based it on the H-welded bleeder T but it's simplified in that there is no welding required, just an extra toob. I cheerfully run 0.9bar on #1 turbo now - nice "boost" to driveability, ahaha. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted September 4, 2002 Share Posted September 4, 2002 Originally posted by Ian C This is the setup I used, I based it on the H-welded bleeder T but it's simplified in that there is no welding required, just an extra toob. I cheerfully run 0.9bar on #1 turbo now - nice "boost" to driveability, ahaha. -Ian Blue spaghetti A more subtle options http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid30/pd0c4c5310745060a383f9c7a4f59e10b/fd4ff0bf.jpg or no 'welding' version http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid30/p6b206b805f16034df72d5f9fa0ecc73d/fd4ff00f.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 Paul How did this go in the end? Cheers Paul:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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