Guest Terry S Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Does anyone know a system that allows Broadband to be added to an ISDN 2e line. BT are telling me we need a new analogue line, which basically doubles the cost of broadband. Any help greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martynb Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I don't think you can do it, they are both digital and can't co-exist on the same line. Even putting them on adjacent connectors in the BT kit in a building can knock out the adsl - an effect a BT engineer treated us to and then walked off claiming it was nothing to do with him ADSL always has to go on an analogue voice line so I think what you are being told is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I'd have to agree. Wasn't sure tho so waited for someone else to post first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Not available in the UK....only used in Western Europe..for the UK you need an analog line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Thanks guys, BT are robbing Bastards. Anyone no of the cheapest analogue line /Broadband package? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Why not look at a wireless solution instead.... there are usually some wireless providers in the area these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Gav if that works cool, but we have no analogue lines in the building, the fax line is digital too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Not sure if they are in the area but check out http://www.netvigator.com Gav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 BT can convert your ISDN2e line to a normal PSTN line then activate broadband. Whoever you choose as an ADSL service provider will organise this all for you. Should warn you though, that it can go really well, however if it goes wrong it really goes wrong and you could be without either for up to 2 weeks... Unless what you're saying is that you need both? i.e. 1x ISDN2 and 1x ADSL? In which case, when you get the extra line installed you MUST make it clear that the line will be used for ADSL else they'll just split an existing line and it won't be ADSL compatible. After they install the line it will be about 1-2 weeks before an ADSL order can be placed on it, then it will be subject to necessary tests before it's even proved as suitable. Unless you already have a phone line you can use- guessing you just use an MSN off the ISDN line though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 LOL it gets worse. We had 2 x Analogue Phone lines & 1 x Analogue Fax. When we started doing lots of CAD stuff we were advised to go to ISDN ( pre broadband). Now we have 1 x ISDN line doing everything, so if we converted back we would lose a phone line, & a fax line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Yup, we get that all the time. People with a phone and fax hanging off an ISDN line. THe only way around it is to get extra normal lines installed but to be honest, once you've totaled up the cost of it all you'll probably find you're no better off than sticking with ISDN. Was it the speed or cost thing making you want to change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Purely a speed thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 We had this problem, had all our phones and ISDN with Eurobell on various lines got BT to put in one line and stuck the fax and broadband on it....kept ISDN till we knew we didn't need it anymore so it's now cancelled although you have to give them a months notice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Purely a speed thing you may find that in the future it doesn't make a lot of difference, as more people sign up it bumps up the contention rate. Some people have already noticed it slowing down at peak times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 The thing is it ( the ISDN modem) grabs all the lines, and when it is a very large document or drawing file it is a royal PITA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hornet Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I have ADSL with 6MB Download and 1.5MB upload through Kingston Communications in hull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Decent service providers have very little or no contention on their OWN network. yes BT can be a bottlenexk, but then again with LLU available at the moment, there are so many decent ISP out their offering very attractive pacakages. ADSL or Broadband in General is the way to go. Ive been with Zen for the past 3 years....never had a problem with speed at anytime of the day...and I am on the home 500 service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Own networks are fairly irrelevant as everythign falls back to BT in the end. I personally have no problems with speed on mine but I've been warned this will change in the future. I live with 2 people that supply and support ADSL connections and they are looking into different options!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Even if its LLU... My personal experience confirms that if you go with a decent ISP like ZEN and go through BT for the phone line one shouldnt have any problems. I live in a very built up area in london, near canary wharf. BTs network isnt all that bad....contention shouldnt be a "problem" on the last mile, just make sure that the ISP has multiple fat pipes to the net with low latency (if you like gaming, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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