Guest Sunrise Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Hi guys, be easy on me so this is my first post. I've currently just removed the 5.0 out of my 77 trans am (yes, like in smokey and the bandit lol) and was planning on putting an ls1 in. However today at work i was put in touch with a collegue who is a supra fan and attempted to covince me to 2jz instead. I'm very mechanically minded, used to be a trained porsche mechanic and engine builder, and im no stranger to engine swaps. With regards to getting the engine in the car which is no issue, how much hassle am i looking at to get it running in mine. simple answers would be great, as its just an idea tat the moment. thanks guys and great site! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Welcome, sounds like a cool project. Must be plenty of room in the trans am bay so cant see it being a problem, what does one of them weigh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Good luck if you go for it,could be interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Welcome and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Sounds like a nice project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sunrise Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Thanks guys for your kind words. Contrary to what most people think it doesnt weigh a lot, just over 1500kg. It's got the brakes off a new corvette (6 pots) and a whole list of suspension mods, so with some mods you can really make them into decent handling cars. Any idea where i can get some info on the wiring, or has anyone got an impartial (dont think il have much use trying for that on here lol) info about the 2jz's and the getrag gearbox? strengths/weaknesses etc thanks guys rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harley-jm Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Love the idea - those 70s yanks are becoming classics. YEEE HAAAA! Check the length of the supra engine - being a 6 pot it is surprisingly long compared with a v8. Should go in though. You going with a turbo motor (go on you have to). If your serious I would suggest investing £50 in the full supra owners/repair manuals (see parts section) as they are very comprehensive. I know what you mean about weight. Modern cars have monster power compared with the 70's but are really weighed down with options and safety gear. Ive got an old 63 chevy boat and it weighs no more than the new mustang... If you go for it put info on the projects forum. Have fun cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 If you buy an engine with the full engine loom and the ecu, and stick to a manual, using the Getrag box it's mated to in the MKIV it shouldn't be too complex a swap, electronics wise. It's a fairly common swap into Volvo RWD models, for example. On some forum or other the wiring issues are no doubt discussed. You could go auto, but be SURE to get the correct loom for an auto model. Be aware that the main part of the sump is an alloy casting that is only made in one format, be sure the sump and crossmember will co exist happily. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 I love the symmetry here, Supra guys smashing V8s into their cars, meanwhile the Yank tank drivers are puting 2JZs into theirs Welcome and good luck mate, best take those Confederate flags off the Bandit and get some rising suns lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 (edited) Sorry but IMO you are far better off with the LS-1, as i doubt the torque characteristics of the 2JZ are really up to hauling a heavy car like that, yes the Supra is no lightweight, but i think the Trans am is a fair bit heaver. Edited September 27, 2008 by Tricky-Ricky (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outatime Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 (edited) Sorry but IMO you are far better off with the LS-1, as i doubt the torque characteristics of the 2JZ are really up to hauling a heavy car like that, yes the Supra is no lightweight, but i think the Trans am is a fir bit heaver. Agreed. Having had both, I would go with the Chev Engine. The amount of torque from tickover is a huge benefit. Edited September 26, 2008 by outatime (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Thanks guys for your kind words. Contrary to what most people think it doesnt weigh a lot, just over 1500kg. Sorry but IMO you are far better off with the LS-1, as i doubt the torque characteristics of the 2JZ are really up to hauling a heavy car like that, yes the Supra is no lightweight, but i think the Trans am is a fir bit heaver. Not that much apparently... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sunrise Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Not that much apparently... Glad someone was reading lol. Now, who are the supra specialists in this country that will know of a 2jz and be able to sell me one if anyone would care to divulge? thanks rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Sorry missed that, didn't realise they where that close in weight, however i still think you are better off with the much more torque of the V8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Hi guys, be easy on me so this is my first post. I've currently just removed the 5.0 out of my 77 trans am (yes, like in smokey and the bandit lol) and was planning on putting an ls1 in. However today at work i was put in touch with a collegue who is a supra fan and attempted to covince me to 2jz instead. I'm very mechanically minded, used to be a trained porsche mechanic and engine builder, and im no stranger to engine swaps. With regards to getting the engine in the car which is no issue, how much hassle am i looking at to get it running in mine. simple answers would be great, as its just an idea tat the moment. thanks guys and great site! the bandit car was a 80-81 model transam, different front end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sunrise Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 And i wouldnt know that being a Poncho owner? lol. i thought it would be easier to say "like in smokey and the bandit" rather than "It's like the one in smokey and the bandit, however mines a real 77, whereas that was an 80 with a 77 front end" doesnt exactly have the same ring does it. Thanks for your helpful input into how to put a 2JZ into an Fbody, you've cleared up a lot. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supraGZaerotop Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 hi sorry my mistake, yes smokey and the bandit came out in 1977, so it was an earlier model transam believe it was (6.6v8), and in smokey and the bandit 2 its the same car as in rocky 2, early 80s model (4.9turbo), different frontend. nice car, always loved them, if i had room and a good garage to keep it in id buy an early transam t-top(6.6v8). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_jekyll Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 i love the way these posts sway from the point lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka-P Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Mr Wilson (posted earlier on in the thread) can give you some sound advice with regards to the 2JZ. Also try Paul Whiffin, Phoenix, Envy etc. Alot of traders are very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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