RobSheffield Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 i am aware that a number of board users are in the IT industry and wondered if anyone could tell me what is the best thing i can get myself trained up in? how long the trasining courses are and where the jobs are would also be something interesting to know slightly less important, yet interesting nonetheless would be realistic salary expectations!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Would be good to know as well as that's where I'm trying to go!! Finishing a BEng biased towards software at the moment - it's a PITA though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 DON'T DO IT! lol Just had a roasting (not the spit variety) from my boss today... DAMN I hate users! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 i agree if i didnt love my car id change industry i work in and go to uni or college again so many people after jobs in IT and its all about the experience what was the point in my qualifications if they all want 5 yrs experience GGGrrrr rant over lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatieC Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I think its a sound career and I would like to know too. Love computers and really would like to have a career in it! Ultimate dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 What makes you ask about IT jobs? If it's the money you're after I'd personally take on another trade altogether. You have to be REALLY good to get paid big in IT these days, and my good I mean years of experience and SME in something difficult like a nasty programming language that some lucky suckers "just picked up" while they were still in nappies etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 If I could start again I'd definately opt for a non-IT career but I seem to be stuck in it now Sadly it's not the magical career it used to be despite what the ads on telly suggest, the market is saturated with well trained but inexperienced people who are willing to take low wages to get a foot on the ladder, as a result the general salaries have dropped compared to 4 years ago. There are still niché areas where people can command some good money but by the time you have got trained up the moment has normally passed and it's on to the next big thing, the key is knowing what is due in a year or so but it's a risk. Storage and capacity management seem to be in demand at present judging by the calls and emails I keep getting, telecoms and voice over IP still seems popular and networking / security jobs are always coming up. I'm currently trying to decide what to specialise in as I'm sick of being a generalist - SMS and Active Directory stuff appeals to me but I'm not sure if it's a big enough area to keep me amused.... Be a plumber, electrican or mechanic - that's where the money is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted March 9, 2005 Author Share Posted March 9, 2005 thanks Mcanny - im thinking about the latter of your suggestions tbh have renamed the thread- would like inspiration if anyone knows of anything i could do with my little life! im only a young un at 24! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Storage and capacity management seem to be in demand at present judging by the calls and emails I keep getting. That's what I work in at the moment, trying to get into the software group though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Time to scare people off IT jobs for the money... only 2 years ago I was on £7000 Have fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 i can beat that i started on £2.70 a hour or equivalant of £4700 a year...those were the days and why.... because i needed to get experience so i had to sacrafice my soul lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Become a Business Transformation Consultant, they get paid a bomb at our place and most are useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Another that thinks IT is sh!t and wants out, but stuck now. Nothing else pays as good for doing so little! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Systems analysts get paid quite a bit I think. You'd never pull anyone in a bar again though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Well if I'm TOTALLY honest I was a web developer before that and when I was on my training I was on £2080 a year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 My actual work is in Cisco IP Telephony and IP Contact Centres. Theres loads of money in it as its a specialist field - wish my bleeding company new it though Time for a move this year I feel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Almost trained systems analyst here - its been a struggle and hard subject I wont qualify until June. Anyone got a job that would offer some training ?? lol PS When In bars I say Im a pilot. (at least I was) 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale B Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Depends what level you play at.. Software developement and AI are BIG BIG payers. Get a 2/1 or masters in that and youre laffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 My actual work is in Cisco IP Telephony and IP Contact Centres. Theres loads of money in it as its a specialist field - wish my bleeding company new it though Time for a move this year I feel! Here here! We're just looking at substitutes for ARC and Altitude and the new IP communicator Thing is, I've met the BT/Cisco people that get paid untold for doing this work and they are total total geniuses at it, it's scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Depends what level you play at.. Software developement and AI are BIG BIG payers. Get a 2/1 or masters in that and youre laffin I've got a 2/1 IT degree- not bloody s/w development though I think it was mcanny that said that you just have to be psychic to know what to get into. So true. I was hoping I'd got it right with IPT but it would seem, as I say that you have to be an absoulte genius and qualified to high heaven to get paid loads. Agreed also, sparkys/plumbers etc are well paid and generally self employed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyJawa Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Here here! We're just looking at substitutes for ARC and Altitude and the new IP communicator Thing is, I've met the BT/Cisco people that get paid untold for doing this work and they are total total geniuses at it, it's scary Aye! Actually met some very nice people from Cisco in the states last year that run the testing within Cisco for all the stuff we use. Very nice people with some good helpful ideas! I had to ask them again if they really worked for Cisco LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_y3k Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 aint got any degree, but I'm training up to be an OCP and have over 11 years experience in BPM. From what I've found its the experience which generates the supra funds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashpoint Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 aint got any degree, but I'm training up to be an OCP and have over 11 years experience in BPM. From what I've found its the experience which generates the supra funds. yup experience counts for more than general qualifications now. So many have see the computeach ads on TV they think it's easy. I lef Uni with a 2/2 started at £12k, i was with the company 2 years said i was leaving and they increased my salary by quite a bit (no meetings no nothing just increased it on the spot) as the I.T. in the company had moved on considerably since i started, they knew they couldn't get someone in who was at the same level as i was when i started. If i were starting now i'd be a plumber £80 per hr might try being a plumber anyway. Fitted my powershower and it's not leaking 6 months later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesupraboy2 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 i just had my yearly apprasial and got told no money for a pay rise i smell bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix_TT Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I work in IT, am an IT Manager. I have a degree in Software Engineering and been working in the industry for approx 9 years ! Somedays I wish I did something else, but I do enjoy the job. There is money to be had in IT, but you have to work for it and as a rule work in the city (London). I don't think salaries in IT are as high as they use to be maybe 4/5 years ago. It would be interesting to know what people think a high salary is ? Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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