Charlotte Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 How about here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-536128/Soldier-fury-MoD-civil-servant-paid-202-000-compensation-office-injury.html That's a different story, and it's the daily mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Do your own darn googling then. There's enough examples around for goodness sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 How about here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1025734/Blown-set-alight-shot--hero-British-soldier-getting-derisory-163-000-payout.html also http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-536128/Soldier-fury-MoD-civil-servant-paid-202-000-compensation-office-injury.html also http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1057053/Linekers-fiance-Danielle-Bux-shows-favourite-thing--diamond-engagement-ring.html Well done Gary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 also http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1057053/Linekers-fiance-Danielle-Bux-shows-favourite-thing--diamond-engagement-ring.html http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/17/article-1057053-0176A4A300000578-661_468x657.jpg Well done Gary. But she's not as nice as Alina Vicariu, is she? She may still be single though, but that may be irrelevant as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 also http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1057053/Linekers-fiance-Danielle-Bux-shows-favourite-thing--diamond-engagement-ring.html http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/17/article-1057053-0176A4A300000578-661_468x657.jpg Well done Gary. Don't think there will be a lad on this forum that doesnt check that story out lol:d Stunning On a more serious note, if ever there were a reason not to sign up, even more of a reason to just press the red button and Nuke the lot of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 The most devoted of all of our soldiers and we kick them in the b@ll@cks - someone in London needs a bloody good shake IMO:Pling: They should be allowed to stay in our country if they wish to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I still would like to see the articles it relates to, otherwise to me it's just propaganda. The OP raises some valid points, but I too would want to see the details of the civilian RSI case: newspapers have a habit of being economical with the truth in order to write good headlines. On the surface, it does seem pretty disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted September 18, 2008 Author Share Posted September 18, 2008 Here is an article talking about the typist's compo Charlotte http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-471700/RAF-typist-hurt-thumb-awarded-times-soldier-lost-leg.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I got a letter from the government the other day, I opened and read it, it said they were suckers. They wanted me for the army or whatever, picture me giving a damn... I said NOT IN MY NAME!! The article being in the Mail didn't come as much of a shock but it's an excellent source of fuel for threads of this nature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 They should be allowed to stay in our country if they wish to. Woah! Hold on there a minute - devils advocate moment here: Just because they worked for the army for a while shouldn't necessarily grant them citizenship. They were being paid, maybe they _hoped_ to become British citizens, but if that wasn't in the specifics of the deal they signed up to, why should they automatically be allowed to stay? Once upon a time, I used to work for Sainsburys, does that mean I ought to get free food from them? It's a stupid dumb argument, but the essence is the same. Mind you, Nepalese food is yummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I got a letter from the government the other day, I opened and read it, it said they were suckers. They wanted me for the army or whatever, picture me giving a damn... I said NOT IN MY NAME!! The suckers had authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 That's a different story, and it's the daily mail. Granted its the daily mail but if you read down near the bottom it says this.. The soldiers' payouts are a fraction of the £484,000 awarded to a civilian RAF typist last year for repetitive strain injury in her wrist. I'm assuming it was this he was referring to, although i agree it is the daily mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 The soldiers' payouts are a fraction of the £484,000 awarded to a civilian RAF typist last year for repetitive strain injury in her wrist. I guess that's the reason then - she was an RAF civilian worker. Clearly if you sue the MOD you get a better payout. Their system is flawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Granted its the daily mail but ... ... although i agree it is the daily mail.The Mail may be cr@p, but they did help to get in-service compensation increased due to their highlighting that infairness in the system. I've got no time for anyone who denies injured servicemen fair compensation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Playing devil's advocate here, what do you define as a fair payout? Soldiers join the armed forces of their own free will (and for various reasons, I don't for a second believe that it's always to 'protect our great nation'), knowing that they'll be put into dangerous situations where they may be harmed, maimed or killed. Many other careers are dangerous, fisherman, cycle courier, highway worker, deep sea diver to name a few - I never hear any news stories shouting for more compensation for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexsum Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 The suckers had authority. you can't have it back, silly rabbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extendor Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 I dont think here is the best place to get your voice heard.... Maybe here There are certainly a lot of posts. As to how many are worthwhile I have my doubts. A lot of it seems like a waste of bandwidth to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 Playing devil's advocate here, what do you define as a fair payout? Soldiers join the armed forces of their own free will (and for various reasons, I don't for a second believe that it's always to 'protect our great nation'), knowing that they'll be put into dangerous situations where they may be harmed, maimed or killed. Many other careers are dangerous, fisherman, cycle courier, highway worker, deep sea diver to name a few - I never hear any news stories shouting for more compensation for them. If their employers are at fault then they get every chance to take them to court and have a judge decide what's fair or not. Service men (or women) don't have that luxury as their employer, the government, have set a limit on how much they're willing to pay out. So I guess my answer to your first question would be "whatever the judge deems appropriate" because everyone's circumstances are individual to themselves. And in response to your statement that "Soldiers join the armed forces of their own free will...", I would say it's one hell of a lot more than a job - once you're there it most certainly IS a case of "for Queeen and Country". That's the sort of attitude serving gives you. It's just a shame the politicians don't see it the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSoop Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 The most devoted of all of our soldiers and we kick them in the b@ll@cks - someone in London needs a bloody good shake IMO:Pling: I remember watching Ross Kemp in Afghanistan when the soldiers get paid a stupidly low wage - £16,000 a year for the heroic job they do and am i right in saying that our troops have to do so many tours in order to get health insurance for a loss of limbs or something along those lines... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 But nobody forces them to sign up... if it's all about the money and no risk then they should aim for a management training scheme at Tesco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSoop Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 But nobody forces them to sign up... if it's all about the money and no risk then they should aim for a management training scheme at Tesco. I know its like any type of force. I believe police officers and firefighters get £19k and upwards for their service at the start. Shouldn't Army/ RAF/ Navy guys get the same?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 I know its like any type of force. I believe police officers and firefighters get £19k and upwards for their service at the start. Shouldn't Army/ RAF/ Navy guys get the same?? No. If you want £19k from the start join the police of fire brigade Say I want to earn £8 an hour at Tesco... I wouldn't apply for a £6 an hour job in Asda... unless I really liked the idea of the Asda environment and if I liked their uniform better. What I'm saying is people have a choice and I'm fairly sure the wages / risks etc are known prior to joining, if you don't like them do something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 But nobody forces them to sign up... if it's all about the money and no risk then they should aim for a management training scheme at Tesco. Just goes to show - it's not all about the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSoop Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 No. If you want £19k from the start join the police of fire brigade Say I want to earn £8 an hour at Tesco... I wouldn't apply for a £6 an hour job in Asda... unless I really liked the idea of the Asda environment and if I liked their uniform better. What I'm saying is people have a choice and I'm fairly sure the wages / risks etc are known prior to joining, if you don't like them do something else. Yeh, you're quite right there Michael... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 If you want £19k from the start join the police of fire brigade That's a good idea, you then get a few days off work each year by going on strike to complain that you still aren't getting paid enough money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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