ivan Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Yep http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=82071&stc=1&d=1221613654That's an absolute disgrace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Mmmm. That's another reason why Bushy worries me. He's another religious nutcase. "God told me to do it." Didn't Blair say something similar as well? Bloody crackpots the lot of them. If you wanna believe in fairy tales that's all fine but keep it to yourself. When your fairy tales start affecting decisions on things that are very important to other people, well then that's quite worrying. Yeah Bush believes in God rather than science, there was a programme on about it last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Yeah Bush believes in God rather than science, there was a programme on about it last night. I missed that Oh well, he'll be out soon. Elections are some time around November aren't they, and inauguration day is.. January ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Yep http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/attachment.php?attachmentid=82071&stc=1&d=1221613654 Be interesting to see what happens to the graph as we progress more deeply in to this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I missed that Oh well, he'll be out soon. Elections are some time around November aren't they, and inauguration day is.. January ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/7619202.stm That kind of summarises a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Palin is a creationist, so worse case scenario is that McCain gets the vote, carks it as he doesn't look like the healthiest of chaps and she gets the hot-seat. Bingo, more troops into the middle-east because god told me to do it. Blair converted to catholicism I think, he never seemed comfortable talking about it to the press but I don't think he had visions of St.Peter telling him to "send troops to Afghanistan, don't worry about giving them proper body armour, the Lord will protect them" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/7619202.stm That kind of summarises a bit. That's an interesting read, thanks. I just had a big worry go through my head. My kid is at school, and they're teaching him creationism over evolution. I tell him "ignore that, it's all bollocks fairy tale stuff", and I get arrested. It doesn't seem too far fetched to think that there could be witch hunts for non-believers of religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Yeah Bush believes in God rather than science, there was a programme on about it last night. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/world/7619202.stm That kind of summarises a bit. Here's the link to the progamme http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00dlr2j/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Palin is a creationist, so worse case scenario is that McCain gets the vote, carks it as he doesn't look like the healthiest of chaps and she gets the hot-seat. Bingo, more troops into the middle-east because god told me to do it. Blair converted to catholicism I think, he never seemed comfortable talking about it to the press but I don't think he had visions of St.Peter telling him to "send troops to Afghanistan, don't worry about giving them proper body armour, the Lord will protect them" Palin sounds like a Russian name - that should be enough for her to lose the vote. I want the black dude to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Palin sounds like a Russian name - that should be enough for her to lose the vote. I want the black dude to win Yeah- whatshis face??? Osama? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 yeah- whatshis face??? Osama? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajazyasin Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I think instead of looking at it a a divide(religion/no religion) which clearly causes peoples back to get up. We could re-word it in a way to unite. How about 'beliefs'. I believe in one God. You believe in scientific facts and proofs. Im happy with how i feel about life and so are you. As long as we all understand that unfortunately both our belief-sets can and will be manipulated to serve someone else who is most probably making money out of them. This obviously doesnt have any bearing on what we believe though it does tarnish us in some way. It is Unfortunate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASHTHEBISHOP Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 It is Unfortunate. Its unfortunate that this is the reason religion exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I don't believe in scientific facts and proofs. They are facts, and there is proof. Theories are just that, unproven as yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multics Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I don't believe in scientific facts and proofs. They are facts, and there is proof. Theories are just that, unproven as yet. Science can be unproven as well. Science can't prove everything, in fact in many cases it can't even prove itself. Where did the laws of physics come from in the first place? However, if science itself cannot say where the laws of physics ultimately come from, there is no reason to expect that religion will do any better and rather good reasons to think it will do worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 17, 2008 Author Share Posted September 17, 2008 *throws on a fresh bucket of fuel* Mickey Mouse has become an awesome character, even though according to Islamic law, Mickey Mouse should be killed in all cases http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/2963744/Mickey-Mouse-must-die-says-Saudi-Arabian-cleric.html I like this though... Last month Mr Munajid condemned the Beijing Olympics as the "bikini Olympics", claiming that nothing made Satan happier than seeing females athletes dressed in skimpy outfits. I must be satan too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extendor Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Last month Mr Munajid condemned the Beijing Olympics as the "bikini Olympics", claiming that nothing made Satan happier than seeing females athletes dressed in skimpy outfits. Classic - has he ever tried to do the high jump or the hurdles in a full length burka and win at an international level. I also wonder how long he watched it to make sure he was satisfied that Satan was happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathew Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 speaking of satan...... if god is the 'creator' then who created satan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 17, 2008 Author Share Posted September 17, 2008 speaking of satan...... if god is the 'creator' then who created satan? Stan. On a more serious note the chaps who made the bible / Quran up did I guess. Talk about passing the blame! Fallen angel or some guff like that isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajazyasin Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 *throws on a fresh bucket of fuel* http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/2963744/Mickey-Mouse-must-die-says-Saudi-Arabian-cleric.html I like this though... I must be satan too Seriously, anyone who can say religion(specifically Islam) is the reason for X,Y,Z is really small minded. Rather, how certain elements of society wish to interperate them. An orthodox Christian's views are not much different from a Muslim's and Orthodox Jews would see us all as gentiles. Science is not disassociated from religion in anyway. Dont get confused into thinking there is religion and science. What doesnt exist is evolution. Adaption, but not evolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Stan. On a more serious note the chaps who made the bible / Quran up did I guess. Talk about passing the blame! Fallen angel or some guff like that isn't it? This was not done in my name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted September 17, 2008 Author Share Posted September 17, 2008 This was not done in my name. Look again, it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Can you believe that priest on Hollyoaks though, getting all friendly with a boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Look again, it was. It was? or it was not? Are you sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathew Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Stan. On a more serious note the chaps who made the bible / Quran up did I guess. Talk about passing the blame! Fallen angel or some guff like that isn't it? my point was that people see god as the creator so therefore he must have created satan. if not then surely satan is the greater creator which then leads me to the question of if so then whats saying that the god which people are actually worshipping is satan? but ignore all of that as we all know its all made up bumf still confusing people thousands of years on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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