jamesmark Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Am I right? If I am then how does the Bus-Stop overtake even figure in things? To explain would take hours, quoting all the rules and watching the footage etc etc, however there is a short version.... LH does not drive for the Ferrari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 One more thing. If Mclaren are to be believed their telemetry show LH was 6kph slower over the start/finish line than KR. Hardly the advantage that you'd expect from cutting the corner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Ok, Bus stop incident came once the rain fell and allowed Lewis to close in on Kimi, it was if you like Round 1. Somewhere in sector 2 they come across a recovering Williams and in the melee, Lewis went on the grass and Kimi went into the lead (under waved yellows...). Lewis got Kimi back immediately as Kimi slid on the exit of that set of corners. Lewis and Kimi both ran wide and onto the run off area on another corner, but where Lewis got back on the track asap, Kimi used this area (more grip) to catapault himself up behind Lewis...but to no avail...Lewis then built up a 2 sec lead and was disappearing as Kimi speared into the barriers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 One more thing. If Mclaren are to be believed their telemetry show LH was 6kph slower over the start/finish line than KR. Hardly the advantage that you'd expect from cutting the corner! Because he lifted to let Kimi past... Let's be honest I think we all wish Lewis had waited another corner to kill Kimi.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 Would anyone like to contribute to my diesel cost so that I can go to Maranello and have it out with them.... ....in my own way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 You need only go to France and blow up the FIA It was their decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Would anyone like to contribute to my diesel cost so that I can go to Maranello and have it out with them.... ....in my own way. As long as you do not forget why you went when you get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Just for clarity can someone remind me of what happened after the disputed lead swap? As I understand it LH went over the grass while in the lead allowing KR to regain the lead. It was then that KR went off for good. Am I right? If I am then how does the Bus-Stop overtake even figure in things? LH tried to overtake KR on the outside of the right hand bend at the start of the chicane...LH was pushed wide, ran off track, came back on track just after the end of the chicane, slightly ahead of KR...alledgedly LH immediately let KR re-pass him, so KR was ahead as they both crossed the start / finish line....first corner after that, LH did a shimmy and fooled KR into pulling left, letting LH pass him on the inside of the right hand turn....LH was then ahead...soon after that, both LH and KR fell over a back marker, LH had to go off track to avoid hitting said back marker, KR avoided well and got ahead again...only to lose it when accelerating on a straight section, this time stuffing the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 what a crock of crap! Look at what happend in the pit lane in the last race with Massa that was a clearly danagerous move and they walked away with it. The fact that Hamilton was a little bit ahead of Kimmi when he had to take the escape route seems to have been ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 You need only go to France and blow up the FIA It was their decision I'm reckon that Ferrari made them an offer they couldn't refuse. Allegedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 An update from the BBC website on the appeal: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7603179.stm What an absolute farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formatzero Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Look on the bright side guys only two points in the title race now can only get more exiting,iv'e asked the f.i.a if they could fit sprinkler systems to all f1 tracks as rain is the only thing that liven's up the action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 3696 Total Signatures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Not as though Ferrari are going to say anything are they, yet another reason I don't like them as a team... FAR to arrogant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Look on the bright side guys only two points in the title race now can only get more exiting, Not really, as an F1 fan I would rather see the title being decided through the races, not FIA (sometimes) biased rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70rXr2Mkq_M LH was brake tested and had nowhere to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecoup Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 i shall be having a word with clarkson about his common sence racing ( as tg mag ) we shall hire the tracks for weekends, invite all the f1 teams, but anyone whos team begins with F or whos cars are red will have to start last and have a 2 lap penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Alex, it was too easy for him to get past. You cannot take to the run-off and then pass the guy in front about 400m later. guess according to you the advantage comes to an end when a ferrari comes first past the finish line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 WE watch F1 to see the best drivers do what they do best; RACE. How can the drivers race when they (non-ferrari drivers) are constantly asked to 2nd guess FIA's made up rules to avoid penalties......it is going to kill the "sport" for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRACIE_LOU Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 just a load of sh@"t$ imo this is just a way of closing up the points to get bigger viewing figures for the last few races and increase profits im getting sick of the politics invovled in this so called sport :lamesign: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Not for the first time this season Hamilton has incurred the wrath of the stewards, initially in Bahrain when he and team-mate Heikki Kovalainen were handed five-place grid penalties for impeding other drivers in qualifying. Hamilton was then demoted 10 places for the French Grand Prix after driving into the back of Raikkonen in the pit lane in the previous race in Canada. Add in the drive-through penalty in Magny-Cours and a 5,000 euros fine for being late to a press conference in Valencia a fortnight ago, and it has been a miserable year in one respect for Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 "I have often said the race is not over until the official results are published and that was the case today." It's not if you win by an inch or a mile, it's how much you are up the arse of the FIA, they might be fat, ugly, or Nazi's, winning is everything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 If I was Ron I'd pack the whole lot up and race elsewhere.The problem there is that the FIA (Mosley in particular) would like nothing better. The only thing McLaren can do is carry on and probe they can win the championship DESPITE the FIA's meddling with the rules. Plus the fact that after Kimi was passed by Lewis. he did manage to get back in front again, only to lose it when he was well in front of Lewis. (Allowing Lewis to pass him again) When he finally stuffed it into the wall, he was already a couple of seconds behind lewis, wasn't he? I'd say too much happened between the incident for which Lewis was penalised and Kimi finally crashing into the wall for Lewis's excursion across the grass to have had any effect on the result.The only reason Kimi got in front is because Lewis backed out of coliding with the BMW across his path. By the time Kimi got there it had moved a bit and there was a decent gap he could get through. Lewis meantime was struggling on the grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 How about when Lewis and Kimi went off on one corner, Lewis got back on track as soon as he could (Whilst keeping up a reasonable amount of speed), but Kimi stayed on the tarmac and literally slingshot round the entire corner, giving himself a fantastic amount of speed and advantage?... Also (Although, I've met, and like the fella), why is there no penalty for Rosberg for a dangerous action by joining the track when he did? That's got to be more dangerous than Massa in the pits in the last race?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 How about when Lewis and Kimi went off on one corner, Lewis got back on track as soon as he could (Whilst keeping up a reasonable amount of speed), but Kimi stayed on the tarmac and literally slingshot round the entire corner, giving himself a fantastic amount of speed and advantage?... youre not keeping up.....in that case ferrari got an advantage and hence they were completely entitled to under the rules of the FIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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