marbleapple Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 LOL:d I can't complain though, I made some good money out of it;) Thats whats so brilliant about money pits. The money always goes somewhere... people get poorer whilst others get richer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extendor Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 You will need a lot of Euros to feed the 'leccy meter for this experiment - Their own stats say - It uses around 120 MW (230 MW for all CERN), which corresponds more or less to the power consumption for households in the Canton (State) of Geneva. Assuming an average of 270 working days for the accelerator (the machine will not work in the winter period), the estimated yearly energy consumption of the LHC in 2009 is about 800 000 MWh. This includes site base load and the experiments. The total yearly cost for running the LHC is therefore, about 19 million Euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 The total yearly cost for running the LHC is therefore, about 19 million Euros. Pretty cheap then, considering the Beijing opening ceremony cost 300 million dollars!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 7, 2008 Author Share Posted September 7, 2008 the large hadron is just a larger particle accelerator, Not JUST four times larger than the previous collider, but the point where there's no advantage in building any larger ones than this. If this one doesn't prove the existence of the Higgs boson and help fill in the missing gaps in the Standard Model of physics - I'm not sure they know what to try next. It's going to replicate the exact conditions immediately following the big bang. It's like time travel, to see what happened At The Beginning. So you see, it's not "just another particle accelerator". You're right though, it could take years to get results. They have to prove anything they find dozens of times to ensure it's not a fluke. What would be really exciting is if they could find some evidence towards string theory..however that seems unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 Pretty cheap then, considering the Beijing opening ceremony cost 300 million dollars!!! And Googles new server farms demands are creating a furore in the US. Huge leccy bills. I believe they're purposely building it next to a hed to get carbon credits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 It's going to replicate the exact conditions immediately following the big bang. It's like time travel, to see what happened At The Beginning. So you see, it's not "just another particle accelerator". Of course if we're (as a collective) correct about what happened in the big bang?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 My claim to fame is that I spent alot of time over a three year period helping to make the bellows (flexible sections) for the Cern project All made from stainless, all vac tested using helium.......pita job but a good earner as the thing is a money pit.That's it, we're screwed if they've used British workmanship. Pretty cheap then, considering the Beijing opening ceremony cost 300 million dollars!!! I thought it was more like 20 billion? Edit: Ah, that was the total cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Large Hardon Collider eh?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManwithSupra Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Would be funny if it did not prove anything lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Would be funny if it did not prove anything lol Well, it'd mean Einstein and Hawkings were both wrong. I guess you could view that as funny in a weird way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Been following this for ages, so much tech and resources have gone into this, hope they find some useful "stuff" Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I'm scared. I hope the activation of this... this....tool of Satan isn't as catastrophic as the Millenium Bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 as i mentioned last time there was a thread on this,. it could technicaly give them results to experiments they havent done yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 That's it, we're screwed if they've used British workmanship. Not just British workmanship......my workmanship I just hope those welds hold out OK :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trig Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Anyone got a live feed, should be starting in 10 mins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Anyone got a live feed, should be starting in 10 mins? I'm listening to radio 4 Trig, they are covering it all morning I'm sure it's 8:30am it starts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trig Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 nice one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Bugger! We're still alive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd_t Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 is it me or does everyone suddenly feel a little bit heavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 It worked ! First stiffy for months this morning. Thanks cern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 It worked ! First stiffy for months this morning. Quick! Only got a few more seconds until the shock wave hits us Ewen. USE IT, doesnt mater on what, just shag something before its too late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Quick! Only got a few more seconds until the shock wave hits us Ewen. USE IT, doesnt mater on what, just shag something before its too late *looks around* furry slippers, vacuum cleaner, cat. Decisions decisions. At least I'll have the best excuse for being late for work this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd_t Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 hahahaha the lights in my office all just turned off! I shat myself. there on a motion sensor that turns them off after 30 mins of nothing moving around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 *looks around* furry slippers, vacuum cleaner, cat. Decisions decisions. At least I'll have the best excuse for being late for work this year. furry slippers!! Skip the foreplay too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 And...I'm spent. Hope the next experiment isn't at 12. I'm in a meeting then. Dont want the old levitating table trick happening in the middle of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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