Jellybean Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Does anybody recommend using supression material like dyno mat too? recomended size speakers are 16.5cm Bolts, I am not too sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Not received mine yet either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey3 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Does anybody recommend using supression material like dyno mat too? recomended size speakers are 16.5cm Bolts, I am not too sure Yes, a lot of people recommend using dynamat to give the speaker a decent (ish) enclosure. It would also mean that your doors wouldn't vibrate as much. 6.5" \ 16.5cm Bolts, I'm fairly sure you need longer ones, but I'm not sure on the exact length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zofix Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 How long bolts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey3 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Just got mine now I need some speakers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jellybean Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Dynamat Installation http://www.dynamat.com/technical_installation_basic_installation.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Well I'll have to wait until I see mine in the flesh against the doors as I can't picture any issues after looking at your images. no worries, i'll wait for the step by step guide. If the speaker grill and the speaker dont line up then it is a bit pointless tbh. If like you I still had the stock grill, then I guess like you say you can make do, but certainly from what I experienced yesterday, the speaker mount doesn't line up with the door card hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Mine arrived this afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickTT Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 1. Mawby PAID POSTED 2. Supradaz PAID POSTED 3. Pixelfill PAID POSTED RECEIVED 4. markymark PAID POSTED 5. Zofix (satin black) PAID POSTED 6. Why T (Satin Black) PAID POSTED 7. Chinstrapped (satin black please) POSTED 8. Wile e Coyote PAID POSTED 9. Monkey3 PAID POSTED 10. Darragh PAID POSTED 11. Bender (Satin Black) PAID POSTED 12. SunnyG83 (Satin Black) PAID POSTED 13. Little num COLLECTED 14. Burna COLLECTING 15. Wez PAID POSTED 16. imi PAID POSTED RECEIVED 17. Aldo87 (Satin Black) PAID POSTED 18. mwilkinson (Satin Black) PAID POSTED 19. marbleapple PAID POSTED 20. Clodola(Satin Black) PAID POSTED 21. Lendusz (Satin Black) PAID POSTED All the brackets have now been sent out. Apologies to anyone who is still waiting for the plain ones, Royal Mail seems to be on a go-slow:(. They have all been sent out recorded delivery, so give it up to a week, then contact me and i'll chase them. I'll try to address some of the issues: 1. These brackets are for 6.5inch round speakers only. I'm not aware of any 6.5inch round speakers that will not fit. 2. Thanks to Burna, who has kindly allowed me to do all the work on his car , in order to produce a install guide. I should be doing this on Friday and i'll get the guide posted on here as soon as I can and i'll cover everything I can think of, with photos. 3. You will need longer bolts - there are 2 options and i'll cover both in the fitting guide. 4. Dynomatting - its up to you, and depends how much of an audio-geek you are;). Its not essential, but wont do any harm. I've padded out the space behind mine using the accouctic wool that is inside the stock speaker enclosures. It is important that the plastic liner is not damaged though as that could allow water inside the cabin. 5. I've borrowed the photo below from Kev.O. Thats exactly how they are supposed to be fitted. If you look at the grill, you can see that the vented bits are not central in the grill (circled in red), and that the centre of the speaker (arrowed) is central in the vent, not the whole grill. Due to the shape of the door, it is not possible to put a large speaker central to the whole grill, behind the door card, as the magnet and speaker frame will hit the door frame at the top. How much space you have depends on the size of the magnet on the speakers you are using. I designed the bracket to allow for fitting behind the door card with the stock grill. If you want to mount the speaker in front of the door card you will need a speaker ring (at least 3/4inch thick) which will allow you to move the speaker up, and away from the door so the magnet will clear the door frame. You can use my bracket to attach the ring to if you wish to fit them this way. Hope this is of some help for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I designed the bracket to allow for fitting behind the door card with the stock grill. If you want to mount the speaker in front of the door card you will need a speaker ring (at least 3/4inch thick) which will allow you to move the speaker up, and away from the door so the magnet will clear the door frame. You can use my bracket to attach the ring to if you wish to fit them this way. http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j320/trick152/1-1.jpg Hope this is of some help for now. Thx Trick for posting the clarification, this helps a lot. As my 6.5" speaker is mounted center of the door card hole, I wont be able to use this bracket without a speaker ring. Is this something that you can help with cause without that I wont be able to use these. thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey3 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Ahhh. Are you going through the front of the door card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Ahhh. Are you going through the front of the door card? Here is a close up of how my speakers are installed at the moment, I dont mind using the speaker mounts to give it a rigid base, but the finish has to be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey3 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Now it all makes sense, I didn't realise you had them on the front of the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sunnyG83 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I got mine today yipeeeeee:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Receive today! Many Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lendusz Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Got mine too! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 2. Thanks to Burna, who has kindly allowed me to do all the work on his car , in order to produce a install guide. I should be doing this on Friday and i'll get the guide posted on here as soon as I can and i'll cover everything I can think of, with photos. You love it!!! I picked up the speakers last night mate so the car will be with you Thursday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Just for reference the speakers I have bought are INFINITY REFERENCE 6522i 6.5". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Just for reference the speakers I have bought are INFINITY REFERENCE 6522i 6.5".Impedance 2 ohms... might be a problem for anyone who doesn't have a head unit/amp capable of supporting 2 ohms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Just for reference the speakers I have bought are INFINITY REFERENCE 6522i 6.5". I was also looking at these or the Apline SPS-17C2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Impedance 2 ohms... might be a problem for anyone who doesn't have a head unit/amp capable of supporting 2 ohms? Well spotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey3 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Impedance 2 ohms... might be a problem for anyone who doesn't have a head unit/amp capable of supporting 2 ohms? But that link also states If your head unit or amplifier is rated to drive a four-ohm load, Infinity Reference speakers are still the best option. What would the issue be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Impedance 2 ohms... might be a problem for anyone who doesn't have a head unit/amp capable of supporting 2 ohms? Oh please don't p!ss on my chips now Mawby I don't have a clue about ICE so these sounded ok to me http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=160155&highlight=INFINITY+REFERENCE+6522i What's the worse that could be wrong with these speakers please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I'm no expert so it may be nothing to worry about, but when I was looking into what speakers I was going to fit I found lots of sites stating stuff like... "...using lower resistance loads produces a greater load on the amp. Well designed amps that cannot handle the demand will either shut themselves off or blow a fuse. A poorer designed amp can permanently damage itself. Also, even if an amp works in these configurations it will probably generate more heat so ventilation is even more important..." Taken from here where there's a load of in depth articles about car audio. I looked at this one in reference to ohms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Thx Trick for posting the clarification, this helps a lot. As my 6.5" speaker is mounted center of the door card hole, I wont be able to use this bracket without a speaker ring. Is this something that you can help with cause without that I wont be able to use these. thx How is that Sheefa was able to do a group buy on my original design for brackets and separate rings for £17 a pair, in moisture resistant MDF, yet these, to your design, are some £30 a pair and its just a bit of cut Marine ply with holes drilled in? Yet Imi is still going to have to buy some rings to get them to actually fit. Don't feel obliged to answer, its more a rhetorical question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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