Chingy Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/974/959111109cg7.jpg Has anyone used one of these or know if there are any others availible for the supra. Looking for a good quality piston damper to stop the engine moving under high stress. Also would like to keep my strut brace if at all possible Any help would be great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Most are just a couple of rubber sleeves on the inside, not actually seen any that are real dampers, try a mountain bike damper, but you would need to fabricate mounts, i have one sitting around, just haven't got around to making mounts, not convinced that its needed, unless your running silly power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 AshBHP has an engine damper fitted to his Supe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Why do you need one? If your engine mounts are ok you shouldn't need one...if your engine mounts arn't ok then you need to change them not add more weight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Agree, I would go with a set of TRD engine mounts instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Agree, I would go with a set of TRD engine mounts instead. Who stock these though?? - I was on a 3month wait that never materialised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Who stock these though?? - I was on a 3month wait that never materialised I can order, order time usually around 4-5 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 And their guaranteed to arrive? PM me prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Dublin Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Not sure but Clodola had a spare one a few weeks back. Post 34 from this thread http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=157444&highlight=damper&page=3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Don't those dampers just transfer vibration to the chassis? Like sitting inside a power drill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Doesnt the 'damper' effect prevent that? One thing I know for sure solid engine mounts are a no go, they give the effect you just mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Doesnt the 'damper' effect prevent that? One thing I know for sure solid engine mounts are a no go, they give the effect you just mentioned If you can actually find a proper "damper" it should help, but as i said i have yet to find a dedicated aftermarket "damper" that isn't made of rubber;) i know some older BMWs had a genuine engine damper fitted, so if you can find one, or go the mountain bike route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chingy Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 Most are just a couple of rubber sleeves on the inside, not actually seen any that are real dampers, try a mountain bike damper, but you would need to fabricate mounts, i have one sitting around, just haven't got around to making mounts, not convinced that its needed, unless your running silly power. Would be very interested to see it if you fabricating one, cross your hand with gold if could make two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chingy Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 AshBHP has an engine damper fitted to his Supe. Thanks will check his garage out maybe drop him a PM, want to get something sorted asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Think Green With Envy has one. Edit. Yep. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=100928&highlight=green+envy&page=39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chingy Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 Why do you need one? If your engine mounts are ok you shouldn't need one...if your engine mounts arn't ok then you need to change them not add more weight! When I was at SRD, JamieP noticed that my turbo was kissing the suspension housing so think very much needed, would think the engine mounts would be ok as he car as only done 12k miles but thats only IMO, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 When I was at SRD, JamieP noticed that my turbo was kissing the suspension housing so think very much needed, would think the engine mounts would be ok as he car as only done 12k miles but thats only IMO, Would the TRD mounts not help with them being more "solid"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chingy Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 Not sure but Clodola had a spare one a few weeks back. Post 34 from this thread http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=157444&highlight=damper&page=3 Thank you, have sent him a PM Think Green With Envy has one. Edit. Yep. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=100928&highlight=green+envy&page=39 Well spotted mate , think Lee P gave them a call about it and it was a custom one they made, I'll give them a buzz tomoro see if they can help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 When I was at SRD, JamieP noticed that my turbo was kissing the suspension housing so think very much needed, would think the engine mounts would be ok as he car as only done 12k miles but thats only IMO, Yea you need to sort something mate as you will end up with a cracked manifold, at the end of the day it should not have really been sold to you like that, id try and tap sumo up for some trd engine mounts and a damper;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chingy Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 Would the TRD mounts not help with them being more "solid"? Yeh really think they would, something I definatley had on my to do list anyway, possible over winter when the car is off the road as would think it would be a fairly big job. Was seeing if there was a quicker solution that i could install straight away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Yeh really think they would, something I definatley had on my to do list anyway, possible over winter when the car is off the road as would think it would be a fairly big job. Was seeing if there was a quicker solution that i could install straight away. Ahh I see, that brace is def going to be the quickest solution then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chingy Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 Yea you need to sort something mate as you will end up with a cracked manifold, at the end of the day it should not have really been sold to you like that, id try and tap sumo up for some trd engine mounts and a damper;) Definatley dont want that:taped:, glad you noticed it mate hopefully get it sorted asap before becomes a problem, (bit like the airfilter could of). Will see if Sumo can help in anyway, seeing them over the weekend at JAE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Engine mounts will reduce movement way more than a little damper + the block isn't designed to be stopped from moving by a little damper at the top, it's designed to only use the engine mounts. I'd personally say that TRD engine mounts are the way forward....though I am surprised that the T04Z is getting that close. Just re-profile the suspension turrent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Engine mounts will reduce movement way more than a little damper + the block isn't designed to be stopped from moving by a little damper at the top, it's designed to only use the engine mounts. I'd personally say that TRD engine mounts are the way forward....though I am surprised that the T04Z is getting that close. Just re-profile the suspension turrent The reason its so close is because he is running a T51 v-band manifold with a T4 adapter so the T04-Z fits;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 (edited) When I was at SRD, JamieP noticed that my turbo was kissing the suspension housing so think very much needed, would think the engine mounts would be ok as he car as only done 12k miles but thats only IMO, Col do you have a photo to show how the turbo sits? How wide is the V-band/T4 adapter? Is it an HKS adapter? It may be possible to fit a narrower one so there is more clearance. I've just been outside to test mine, I have the factory fitted OEM engine mounts and get around 5mm movement at the turbo at high rpms, the TRD mounts should minimise this a bit. Other option would be to cut the V-band flange off the manifold and get a T4 flange welded on, although this could create a weak point on the manifold. Edited August 28, 2008 by Nic (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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