Adam Kindness Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 Can someone please give me some symtoms of blown turbos!? I was going along, OD off overtaking some cars, funny noise - loss of power! no smoke tho.... so i though a popped hose.... Pulled over to fix, found nothing.... gave the throttle cable a blip... no turbo whine and now smoke out the rear Idle is very lumpy now too (would this normally be effected? unless blades are siezed or something??? ) HELP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 Originally posted by Adam Kindness Can someone please give me some symtoms of blown turbos!? I was going along, OD off overtaking some cars, funny noise - loss of power! no smoke tho.... so i though a popped hose.... Pulled over to fix, found nothing.... gave the throttle cable a blip... no turbo whine and now smoke out the rear Idle is very lumpy now too (would this normally be effected? unless blades are siezed or something??? ) HELP Sorry mate but can't help, but looks like your having one of them weeks mate! Hope it works out for you and isn't too expensive to fix! Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kindness Posted August 22, 2002 Author Share Posted August 22, 2002 anyone else? How much are replacements, or Hybrids ? not wanting to spend big money on singles, new injectors/fuel rail etc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 Double check your hoses!!! Especially the hard to reach ones! As you know that's where the problem will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kindness Posted August 22, 2002 Author Share Posted August 22, 2002 what about the smoke tho? Im going to look over it tomorrow.... had a few beers now and its cold and dark and im feeling sorry for myself I hope its not the turbos! but i think it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 How much smoke ? what colour? if its black smoke ..... thats due to too much fuel , usually happens with a popped hose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kindness Posted August 22, 2002 Author Share Posted August 22, 2002 it was grey/blue (oil) smoke underload the smoke increases, whilst there is none an at idle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 Turbo oil seal??? Get it to a specialist ASAP!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kindness Posted August 22, 2002 Author Share Posted August 22, 2002 im looking into local places that i can trust at the mo..... going to have a look round again in the morning... just to make sure i havent missed anything obvious.... What would cause the seal to go..... increased pressure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 Do you use a Turbo Timer?? Do you let it cool down after a run? Pressure/heat will kill any oil seal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redline Rooster Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 hmmmm does sound like a blown turbo/oil seal - My mate has a scooby, and he had his turbos wound up quite alot, and was running about 17PSi boost, this was great until one day POP! we were up our "test strip" doing 0-60's when he lost all boost and the biggest ploom of blue smoke ever came from his car!!! When it was all stripped down he had blown the oils seals in his turbo and a bearing had ciezed!! not good! dont want to sound gloomy, but you may just have blown oil seals and not bearings as well. he had his reconned, and it wasn't too bad either!! cant rememeber exactly how much but he was up and running again in about 2 weeks! Rooster :flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kindness Posted August 23, 2002 Author Share Posted August 23, 2002 i dont have a turbo timer, but i do sit for a while and let the oil get round... im getting numbers of turbo folk around edinburgh today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonball Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Adam Not sure it's worth anything - but the NZealand site has a few notes on blown turbo's and suggests that actuators (?) may give same symptoms? May be worth checking the site out? Hope that it's not as bad as you fear! Cheers Paul:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 I know what you mean, but the actuators won't simulate the oil smoke out the exhaust, just the lack of power. I don't like the sound of 'lumpy idle'. No strange engine block noises, I hope? -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 When I first fitted my boost controller to my car, after a couple of runs at full throtle, I lost power and had a load of black/gret smoke out of the exhaust when the hose for the boost gauge popped off. This also caused a very lumpy idle. Hopefully your's may be that easy. Although the blue smoke doesn't sound good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra11 Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Hey, Sounds very much like a loose hose somewhere. Check them all thoroughly when you get a chance. Sometimes it can only take the smallest split. Also remember to check the intercooler for cracks. I doubt this is due to a blown turbo. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kindness Posted August 23, 2002 Author Share Posted August 23, 2002 its used a fait bit of oil too! oil seal on the turbo looks more likely by the minute Ive got a few companys in mind now... MV Turbos (HKS dealer) and another place, not so much turbos but a good general garage to prob get it checked out... Star Performance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kindness Posted August 23, 2002 Author Share Posted August 23, 2002 just been past the local garage (they do all the work for the local importers) Its going in on monday to get checked out.... His words, there no suction so thats promising, could be an IC hose.... I hope it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedgehogSandwich adi Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 If you check http://www.turbotechnics.com they give a run down of symptoms to look out for with a blown oil seal. I've just had both of mine rebuilt (CT12A, slightly different fromthe CT12B) after oil seal going..but the symptoms were different as mine hadn't fully let go (i had smoke on kickdown, and smoke at traffic lights, but it didnt smoke when i revved it at standstill). As a rough guide my hybrids from Turb Tech were £1300+vat for both, with an owners club discount. adi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Adam, I know it's a little bit further to go, but have you thought about using Greersport in Ayrshire? The owner is the one that runs the 10 second JUN prepped Skyline at Crail. See their webby for details. They do a lot of prep work with Rally cars and high power road cars - seem to know their stuff where Turbo's are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kindness Posted August 23, 2002 Author Share Posted August 23, 2002 will do..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terence Posted August 25, 2002 Share Posted August 25, 2002 Here we go again, dare I say this, I can send your turbos to the same chap who builds them for loen, now if there good enough for leon there good enough for anyone, I use him too and his work is excelent, cost is around £850 + vat a pair for fully blown hybrids providing yours are not totaly knackered. He will also build them to your spec, ie what you want to acheive, bottom end, midrange, top end and so on. Terry I await the barrage of comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kindness Posted August 26, 2002 Author Share Posted August 26, 2002 sounds good! you got an email addy, or no for this guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Originally posted by terence I await the barrage of comments ...Perhaps Terry can give us this guys contact details . Terry's a very busy man & you wouldn't want to take up his precious time . Good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terence Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Good enough? > not by a long way but a good try though, im sure if anyone looks hard enough they can find out who it is, just ask loen or mr branners, im sure they will help you. if you go through leon or anyone else for that matter you will pay their prices, simple. thats how it works. the price i gave was a price through me, i'll be honest i will earn a little for passing them on but i think you'd be hard pushed to find better and for that quality. Terry and before anyone thinks im ripping them off, i would earn maybe £50 on the pair and when thats £500 notes cheaper than say turbo technics before the vat i cant see too many people complaining particularly when i could earn more out of it and no-one would be the wiser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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