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Red Stuff Pads


mrboost

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Just got my new brakes on - and have red stuffs fitted!

 

If I may make an observation

 

CRAP!

 

They are just not up to it (IMHO) - tons of break dust and a real falling off in power when hot - they are also blue-ing my cross drilled and grooved discs slightly (they are getting too hot)

 

Initial bite is good though

 

They also take a while to heat up from start

 

Mintex - bit squealy

 

The suggested pad are Ferrodo's (2000 or 3000?)

 

Paul Whiffin loves his Porters

 

But I am not impressed - and this from a man who was greenstuff positive on my last car

 

Paul

 

:cool:

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I'm using Perormance Friction pads, sourced from Chris Wilson, albeit in AP 6 pot calipers, on his recommendation. Pads are excellent. no noise and not much dust and great braking.

 

Tried both Ferodo grades, again in AP 6 pots, braking is excellent, but very noisy, no amount of copper grease on the backing would shut them up and very dusty.

 

Mark Brown

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I have them - and they appear to be,...well...discs really!

 

I notice a more noticable 'strumming' sound under high braking(not a bad noise) as the pads go over the grooves (I assume)

 

Many will say there is no need for drilled and grooved and it actually weakens the disc

 

Whichever you have - good discs + crap pads = crap braking (hence the reason for my search for good pads)

 

Cheers

 

Paul:cool:

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I've got NO IDEA about grooves/holes on car discs,

BUT,

having had older bikes with plain discs and modern bikes with

holed discs,

 

[AND, having drilled my own discs on an old RD250 ! ! CAREFULLY ! ]

 

I can AT LEAST state one MAJOR difference between holed/plain -

 

with the plain there was a fraction-of-a-second delay in wet weather as the pad cleared the disc of water.

with the holed there was/is no real 'wait' for initial reaction -

the brakes are more-like in the dry.

[bIG difference on the RD, noticed IMMEDIATELY in rain - BIG

delay when plain / NO delay after drilling]

 

 

Don't know if that applies to car discs, as, they are far more

protected from weather under the bodywork ? ?

 

 

Steve.

 

ps. I'm pretty sure having holes/grooves must rip the pad

material faster than plain - but perhaps it's insignificant ?

 

pps. besides.....they look neat with holes/grooves in eehhhh ?

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