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Methods to aleviate brake fade


mikeyb10supra

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We must have all suffered from it at time to time, me included and an incident last night involving a supra and BMW m3 has got me thinking......we were both having a fair old rag when low and behold fast approaching a junction brakes on hard....shit fade fade fade heart in mouth sweat pouring from palms....luckily managed to dive into the other lane as there was nothing on the road at all.

 

I know a lot of you are going to say get uk's but for now im going to try and maximise the j-specs for the time being. Just changed all fluid for motul dot5.1 and fitted goodridge lines, next on the list is pads, hoping this will make a difference as im running stock pads at the mo

 

any other ideas, was thinking drilled dba discs or similar

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Well the pads for starters, race pads will really improve braking but at the expense of noise and dust and possibly (depending on compound) reduce low speed low temperature braking, they may need temperature to bite well. They can be quite expensive though

 

I would also take all the calipers off and buy a refurb kit and make sure all 4 calipers are doing their job by refurbing them.

 

You could get some 2 piece disks, this should help to dissipate a bit more heat again they can be expensive.

A high temperature boiling point brake fluid with a proper full flush will help too.

 

Maybe some decent ducting to the brakes.

 

By the time you have bought your race pads and your disks and fluid you could have got yourself some secondhand uk specs !

Which wouldn't be far off the performance of the upgraded j specs.

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The only place I can imagine getting brake fade would be on a track.

 

my jspecs and stock pads did well on light track use, but two 140+ stops and the things would fade.

 

some pads continue to work into higher temperatures, but...

 

bigger disks = more heat shed, simple physics.

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I fail to see how braking from 70 would cause brake fade... ;)
It very much depends on the pads. The brakes on my GS (same as a J-spec Supra) would feel very dodgy at the end of a local stretch of dual carriageway made up of short straights and roundabouts (braking from 70-80). It's fine since I changed the pads (probably Blueprint or ADL) to Mintex.
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Thats odd Gareth, the brakes on my Soarer (same as J spec Supra I believe) never gave me any heart in mouth moments, and only twice I think at above legal speeds
Probably had decent pads, Craig. There really was a huge difference between the first pads I had in the GS and the Mintex pads which replaced them.
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Don't bother doing anything with the j-specs.

 

I changed the brake lines and fluid on mine.

Then I got Endless SSS racing pads.

Then I had all the calipers rebuilt and ... they still faded.

 

I now have UK brakes with DBA discs and again with the endless racing pads and now a carbing strut brace with a brake brace

The brakes feel so different now!

They just feel amazing compared to the j-spec ones.

 

I think the j spec brakes are fine if you're not driving hard all the time, but my advice is save your money and go for the uk specs if you want really good brakes.

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